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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo_man View Post
    posted an article about this to get my thoughts down...

    http://www.vdmsr.com/2015/10/oregon-...-shooting.html

    Nothing that hasn't been already said, just putting out there for future reference.
    THIS!

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    Train Hero Guardsman avoided UCC shooting due to a rehearsal for his upcoming appearance on Dancing With The Stars..,,

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    Brother of Oregon Shooting Survivor Wants Obama to ‘Quit Running the Gun Agenda’


    The brother of one of the Oregon shooting survivors said on CNN tonight that President Obama should stop his “gun agenda” and focus on mental health.

    Jessy Atkinson is the brother of Cheyenne Fitzgerald, a teenager who was badly injured in the shooting and is currently recovering at the hospital. A GoFundMe page has already raised over $10,000.

    Atkinson and his mother Bonnie Schaan talked tonight to Anderson Cooper, who asked them what they would say to Obama if they get a chance to speak to him when he comes.

    Atkinson said, “Look where the problem really lies, and quit running the agenda––quit running the gun agenda. It’s not the problem. It’s mental health in America.”

    Schaan simply said “our children should be able to protect themselves somehow.” When she was interviewed a few days ago, she said her daughter should have had a gun to be able to protect herself.
    Cheyenne's GoFundMe page: https://www.gofundme.com/vh5hy89w
    #RESIST

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    He'll be written off and ignored as a gun crazy and obviously in need of control for his safety.


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    He'll be written off and ignored as a gun crazy and obviously in need of control for his safety.
    The mainstream media won't touch this.
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    Finally, it sounds like people are starting to wake up, and understand that "gun-free zone" signs don't do shit.. And finally, they're also starting to realize they need to protect themselves, themselves, the collage ain't gonna do it, beyond locking classroom doors.. I swear, if I were president for a day, I'd cut off funding to all collages that didn't allow students, faculty, to carry, and fire every known socialist professor, while I'm at it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GardoneVT View Post
    The issue isn't accountability, as there's plenty of public sentiment for THAT no matter what ones political attiude is.

    The question is direction. Some blame the people for evil; others have decided the tool is what's to blame.

    You can't ban human evil with a law. You can ban a tool easily enough.
    I understand, but it's not meaningless sentiment that I'm referencing, but rather legal accountability. Motivate individuals that know of these underlying problems to act instead of passively enable them.

    By forcing capitulators to have some skin in the game, maybe they would take a vested interest in doing what's right instead of what's most convenient. Or, at the very least, do the bare minimum to keep themselves out of prison, which would inevitably expose some of these crazies before they're able to purchase guns and patiently plan their attacks.

    Like I said, this isn't a gun problem, it's a people problem, both the people that physically commit the crimes and the people that look the other way from the tell-tail signs because it's easier.

    Example, as I previously stated, it would come out that there were signs, and it did. Mom and Dad knew of their sons issues but obviously did little to prevent him from owning firearms (13?). Wasn't Dad surprised that this happened? Quote, "as surprised as anyone". What's worse, now Dad blames gun laws and says "guns are the killers". Accountability, there is none. Lock them both up and see how parents become more proactive.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/06/us/ore...sts/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraitR View Post

    Example, as I previously stated, it would come out that there were signs, and it did. Mom and Dad knew of their sons issues but obviously did little to prevent him from owning firearms (13?). Wasn't Dad surprised that this happened? Quote, "as surprised as anyone". What's worse, now Dad blames gun laws and says "guns are the killers". Accountability, there is none. Lock them both up and see how parents become more proactive.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/06/us/ore...sts/index.html
    Except there are no empirical signs of incipient villainy.

    That's a fancy way of saying making the parents " accountable" wont mean squat, besides incentivizing parents to discourage their kids from any interaction with firearms.Best way to ensure your kids don't end up blowing a fuse and going homicidal is to raise them as anti as possible.

    I'm reminded of a case in Germany where a high school student stole his father's Beretta and shot up his school. Naturally the laws in Germany are significantly more restrictive , and as such the firearm was unloaded and locked up according to law. Kid didn't give a crap when he broke into his dad's safe, and neither did the German state when said dad got sent to prison for "negligence".

    If that's your idea of accountability, we may as well ban guns period and have done with it.
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    Stand there and die:

    http://www.vox.com/2015/10/7/9469693...oregon-shooter

    Since you might get shot on the charge - just stand there. The better solution is gun control.

    Saw a DB on CNN say the law enforcement recommends that you just stand in a line and die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn E. Meyer View Post
    Stand there and die:

    http://www.vox.com/2015/10/7/9469693...oregon-shooter

    Since you might get shot on the charge - just stand there. The better solution is gun control.

    Saw a DB on CNN say the law enforcement recommends that you just stand in a line and die.
    It'll take at least a day for me to forgive myself for clicking on that link. Vox. Note to self... Just say no.
    "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

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