I have also heard much negative about the Winchester takedown, and seen some that had been modified to snug them up, to include one model 55 that was epoxied together to eliminate the takedown. I also think that many people never knew that there was a system built in to take up slack in the fit as it wore in. Not quite as nice a system as the model 12 shotguns use to take up slack, but still there, and I believe mostly unknown and unused. They can still continue to wear, but the adjustment gives it longer usable life before other methods are required.