Federal Fusion .223 62 grain MSR load

[GJM]

I have heard that the Federal Fusion .223, 62 grain load, MSR, F223MSR1, is essentially a LE bullet, loaded to .223 velocity, and that it is a good AR load for defensive use, that is commonly available. Is this correct?

[JHC]

I have heard that the Federal Fusion .223, 62 grain load, MSR, F223MSR1, is essentially a LE bullet, loaded to .223 velocity, and that it is a good AR load for defensive use, that is commonly available. Is this correct?

That's what has been reported. But each of Wiggin's tests of a Fusion rifle load has shown juuust enough penetration for LE standards. Less than I've found published for Gold Dots.

[texasaggie2005]

That's what has been reported. But each of Wiggin's tests of a Fusion rifle load has shown juuust enough penetration for LE standards. Less than I've found published for Gold Dots.

Didn't Wiggin's test use a handloaded Fusion bullet to simulate performance at certain velocities at longer distances?

Edited to add: Here is the thread I'm thinking about. Is there another Wiggin's did?

[TR675]

Per Doc,

For LE Patrol use, where there is a high incidence of potential engagements around or involving vehicles, ammunition that is able to effectively penetrate intermediate barriers, particularly vehicle glass is critical...Most other acceptable LE barrier blind loadings are at .223 pressures, including...the .223 Speer 64 gr Gold Dot JSP's (and identically constructed Federal 62 gr Fusion JSP and Federal XM223SP1 62gr Bonded JSP).

Emphasis added.

[Saur]

Is there any difference between the MSR GJM noted and the non-MSR one (F223FS1) ?

[Schmetallurgy]

Is there any difference between the MSR GJM noted and the non-MSR one (F223FS1) ?

About 150 extra fps out of a 10.5" CL Noveske bbl, ~2515 (I believe @ ~40°F). Should give you about 275yds before dropping below the 1800fps rifle wounding velocity though it expands well below that. Faster, low flash powder, crimped and sealed hard primers and hard head brass, visible iris.