U.S. Army Switching to Hollow Point Ammunition

[Suvorov]

Some years back (not that many), I read that the Corps was actually reducing the number of handguns in their combat arms TO&Es. Company grade officers and staff NCOs would be issued M4s, while the grunts would continue to be issued M-16A4s.

A friend's daughter went through the Marine Corps MP school two years ago, and I was flabbergasted to learn that she received two- TWO- whole days training on the M9, during a six week course. I had worked with her with a borrowed 92F on her break between boot camp and the MP school. She told me that familiarization saved her from boloing.

Did I say training? Actually, it was one day of barely-supervised fam firing, and the next day were quals… which a full third of the class failed. Simply amazing… and scary.

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Well, that is twice as many days of training than I received. As I've said, the difference between what I got in Armor Officer Basic Course and what I got at FLETC was night and day, and the scary thing is - that FLETC brings you up to the baseline of competence with a handgun.

[JHC]

XM-17 . . . "17" . . . Hint hint

[45dotACP]

I would lol pretty hard if they adopted Hydrashoks. 😄

[RJ]

XM-17 . . . "17" . . . Hint hint

I see what you did there.



Srs question: Any wild guesses on the front runners in the competition?

[JHC]

I see what you did there.



Srs question: Any wild guesses on the front runners in the competition?

I have wild guesses. For a "system" with subcompact, compact and full size guns; adjustable grips . . . my wild guess is that Glock and the Sig 320 are top contenders. Frame mounted safeties - IF they are required should be light lifting to be added if required.

[JHC]

I would lol pretty hard if they adopted Hydrashoks. ��

O M G! I'll shit.

[Colt191145lover]

If there history on design and adoption is any "sign" they will probably dump $20 Million into designing/stealing a round that that is far worse than any modern bonded JHP. Im just thinking out loud...

[Odin Bravo One]

Meh....

The requirements document will define what capabilities the round must have with a hollow point bullet, but in the end it will be a giant waste of time, money, and other resources. Money that would be better spent training those issued a pistol, how to shoot said pistol.

Those who have a "no shit" need for pistols at pistol ranges do not get as hamstrung by retarded policies as those who have pistols issued as a badge of office/rank, so the practical impact on the battlefield will be unidentifiable.

[JSGlock34]

If there history on design and adoption is any "sign" they will probably dump $20 Million into designing/stealing a round that that is far worse than any modern bonded JHP. Im just thinking out loud...

Well, the TTAG article did say "The Army said it will rely on FBI data to evaluate bids for the new ammunition." If the Army just asked the FBI what's the best choice and then bought Winchester Ranger Q4364 (or whatever the FBI issues), then great. That makes way too much sense though.

[Sigfan26]

Well, the TTAG article did say "The Army said it will rely on FBI data to evaluate bids for the new ammunition." If the Army just asked the FBI what's the best choice and then bought Winchester Ranger Q4364 (or whatever the FBI issues), then great. That makes way too much sense though.

It'd more likely be something in the ATK/Lake City line, if I had to guess.