So you have no answers.
Fairness leads to extinction much faster than harsh parameters.
That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state;
I did. My answers are in the questions.
If you think what SCOTUS did for gay rights and Obamacare is legal, then that's why you'll never understand my questions or answers. I won't waste my time with someone as smart as you that is unwilling to be intellectual honest about my questions. I guess we'll both claim cop out and have this discussion in another form in another thread like we've done so many other times.
Fairness leads to extinction much faster than harsh parameters.
You never replied to a previous point: would you also accommodate a public employee whose religion prohibits her to marry:
1) people of different races?
2) People of different religions?
3) women who are not virgin?
Where do YOU draw the line?
And how about we just draw a big fat line saying keep your religion in your heart, in your church, outside of government buildings? How about in a Government building is the Government who decides and not its employees?
SCOTUS not legal? Now that is an interesting point, I thought their job was to decide on cases brought before them to settle the law of the land... The best legal scholars have decided to rule that way. What are your qualifications to say their ruling is not legal?
Also, the mere thought of the Kool Aid spilling on my lap carrying AIWB ( I need to post on that) makes me confused, uncertain. You guys suddenly look attractive....
It should be that simple, but never is.
If you come to work for me and refuse to do some parts of the job that you were told up front you would be required to do, I can find someone else willing to do all of the job. Asking for time off to go to Church on Ash Wednesday is not even close to the same "accommodation" as refusing to interact with my __________ customer because you find their ____________ objectionable. Adios.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
I apologize if I didn't respond to those questions before; I did not notice them. But to answer here, those are classic "strawman" questions because they don't deal with real and material issues, and we know that because clerks haven't been asking for exemptions in those cases.
However, to honor the "free exercise" clause of the Constitution, if clerks had legitimate, good faith religious objections to giving marriage certificates to, for example, red-haired heterosexuals, I think the government ought to reasonably accommodate those objections even if I find them bizarre. Again, I think the accommodation needs only be reasonable and not absolute, but a tolerant society is one that tolerates those with whom you disagree as well as those with whom you agree.
As for your suggested "big fat line" to "keep your religion in your heart, in your church outside of government buildings," that is not what the Constitution provides. It protects the "free exercise of religion" and doesn't require it to be kept in people's hearts or in church buildings. Now, you might not be much of a fan of religion and the Constitution protects your view. But it also protects the view of those who disagree with you on that subject. Both sides of the debate can, and in my view, should be reasonably accommodated if we indeed are a tolerant society.
And if we aren't tolerant--or if the current "winners" get to define tolerance in the terms most favorable to them, then I'd suspect that things in this country will get much more contentious.
Well, there is a difference between a government agency--which must respect the first amendment rights of its employees--and a private business, which has no such restrictions. However, you will find that even private businesses are required to make such accommodations in a lot of cases under the civil rights laws.
Some Counties Withholding Same-Sex Marriage Licenses
There you go... Hood County Clerk's OFFICE (the clerk has decided for all her employees) will not issue licenses.
I’m standing up for my religious liberty,” said Hood County Clerk Katie Lang, who said her office would not give out same-sex marriage licenses on religious grounds.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776