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    Quote Originally Posted by dove View Post
    Are you allowed to comment on what the investigation found as the cause?

    I've always thought these were nonexistent with factory ammo, but I guess there's always one or two bad apples in a big enough grove eh?
    Had a factory light load with Winchester 12 gauge shell (caught it on video too, it didn't cycle the action all the way). It happens.
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    I'm pretty sure I've had at least one squib in a GP-100. I was shooting steel and round 4 of 6 didn't make any noise. My brain caught up to my trigger finger only after I'd already launched rounds 5 & 6. At the time I hoped that it was a light strike (very normal with the ammo I was using at the time, IIRC), but all primers were popped. If it was a squib, it left no damage to the gun that I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dove View Post
    Are you allowed to comment on what the investigation found as the cause?

    I've always thought these were nonexistent with factory ammo, but I guess there's always one or two bad apples in a big enough grove eh?
    If I'm remembering it correctly, the barrel was plugged with something like 17 rds of a popular force on force round. A live round of 5.56 was then fired behind them and Poof!. The fault lay with the instructors in this case, not the shooter. Many of the accidents I have been around for were similar in nature, that is, someone decided to switch a gun back and forth between force on force ammo and live ammo. Nothing good ever comes of that, and dedicated sims guns are the only smart way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLG View Post
    If I'm remembering it correctly, the barrel was plugged with something like 17 rds of a popular force on force round. A live round of 5.56 was then fired behind them and Poof!. The fault lay with the instructors in this case, not the shooter. Many of the accidents I have been around for were similar in nature, that is, someone decided to switch a gun back and forth between force on force ammo and live ammo. Nothing good ever comes of that, and dedicated sims guns are the only smart way to go.
    Oof. Yea, I didn't realize that was a thing that is done... A scary prospect...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR675 View Post
    I'm pretty sure I've had at least one squib in a GP-100. I was shooting steel and round 4 of 6 didn't make any noise. My brain caught up to my trigger finger only after I'd already launched rounds 5 & 6. At the time I hoped that it was a light strike (very normal with the ammo I was using at the time, IIRC), but all primers were popped. If it was a squib, it left no damage to the gun that I've ever seen.
    That's my only real concern about squibs (not that I lose sleep over them). Bullseye shooting for fun is fine but if I'm running USPSA stages or something 3 or so bullets are gonna get fired before my brain recognizes an oopsie. With my shotgun example I just assumed it was a jam and cycled the round out; only after the RO yelled STOP many seconds later did I realize what just happened.
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