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    SCOTUS Refuses Jackson v. San Francisco. Undermining Heller

    SCOTUS Refuses to Hear Major Gun Rights Case, Clarence Thomas Files Sharp Dissent

    The U.S. Supreme Court dealt Second Amendment supporters a major defeat today by refusing to hear an appeal filed by San Francisco gun owners seeking to overturn that city's requirement that all handguns kept at home and not carried on the owner’s person be "stored in a locked container or disabled with a trigger lock." Today’s action by the Court leaves that gun control ordinance on the books.
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    I wonder what changed their minds.....


















    /sarcasm.
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    The "guy" with the Mosin, what in the hell.

    Way to go to those OC retards. Pro tip: you're doing it wrong. Having a rifle is stupid enough but I can't remember the last time I had my pistol at a low ready in public for a picture. I'm all for that leading to arrests.
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    I am no expert, but isn't it true that lawsuits that make it to the Supreme Court are rejected on other factors other than the merits? Couldn't that include issues, such as whether the issues in the lawsuit are directly related to the 2nd Amendment or may be related to jurisdiction and plaintiffs. I have heard that sometimes the Supreme Court doesn't think the appeal is the "right one" to take on a certain issue. I have heard of appeals being rejected because they simply do not have enough time in their docket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cclaxton View Post
    I am no expert, but isn't it true that lawsuits that make it to the Supreme Court are rejected on other factors other than the merits? Couldn't that include issues, such as whether the issues in the lawsuit are directly related to the 2nd Amendment or may be related to jurisdiction and plaintiffs. I have heard that sometimes the Supreme Court doesn't think the appeal is the "right one" to take on a certain issue. I have heard of appeals being rejected because they simply do not have enough time in their docket.
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    Thomas' dissent...

    Less than a decade ago, we explained that an ordinance requiring firearms in the home to be kept inoperable, without an exception for self-defense, conflicted with the Second Amendment because it “ma[de] it impossible for citizens to use [their firearms] for the core lawful purpose of self- defense.” District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U. S. 570, 630 (2008). Despite the clarity with which we described the Second Amendment’s core protection for the right of self-defense, lower courts, including the ones here, have failed to protect it. Because Second Amendment rights are no less protected by our Constitution than other rights enumerated in that document, I would have granted this petition.
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    Just finished reading the whole opinion here: http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastor...5/12-17803.pdf

    The good news is they affirmed the right of self-defense and the right to carry in the home. I personally think they erred when they found the restrictions reasonable. If the City required everyone to lock up their knives when not in use or carry them on their person, I am fairly certain the courts would find that unreasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GardoneVT View Post
    I wonder what changed their minds.....


















    /sarcasm.
    As much as I hate the OC retard squad I don't think this can be laid at their feet. Guns carried by folks aren't impacted by the ordinance. Just those not being carried around.

    How in the heck was the city going to enforce this law?? Were they going to do bed checks to see if people sleeping with their guns on the nightstand had them made inoperable. What a bunch of idiots. I was soooooo disappointed this weekend when some seismologist reassured us that the San Andreas fault couldn't cause Kali to fall into the Pacific. What a downer.

    This is why I'm not too keen on having things make it to the SCroTUS. They are just as scary in their thought process as the rest of the government lapdogs.

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    on the left, guy or gal?
    yes.
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    Carry around the house.

    Leave the key in your locked container.

    The law may not be right, but its not hard to get around and still have a gun available for immediate defense.

    I can't tell you how many home invasions I've seen where the occupant had guns around the house but was prevented from reaching them by suspect actions. One of my first murders was a guy toes up literally half in and half out of his doorway wearing nothing but his boxers. There were dozens of guns in the house. None were secured. None mattered.

    A carried gun beats a stash gun.

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