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    They were delicious.
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    Ah, yes. The human mind can only hold so much…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Cunningham View Post
    Nobody remembers the bacon appetizers on Friday night?


    The first half of the crowd, who all ate a double portion of bacon, sure do!

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    I am a few weeks slow in getting out this AAR but the class was just
    fantastic.

    The instructors were really down to earth there was no promotion of
    any product, "if it works get the cheapest one" was the general
    advice. There was no over intellectualization of the material with
    unnecessary big words (the current fad to talk about "myalination").
    There was not really much theory just solid instruction on the
    fundamentals. The "material" which was covered should be stuff that
    any PF member who has taken a pistol or rifle course is familiar.
    This was very reassuring, "the basics" should always be the same and
    the fact that the material is familiar is an indication that its
    important, learn it right and be able to perform when required. There
    was no secret ninja "no one knows this but . . . " at this class.

    Jack (Failure2Stop) taught positional rifle shooting: sitting,
    kneeling, standing and Natural Point of Aim. This is the same
    material which is taught at AppleSeed or for CMP or in Jeff Coopers
    book "The Art of the Rifle". So you already know the material, now
    shoot it. We were shooting at 6MOA targets at 100 yards.

    It was particularly interesting to me to see this material being
    taught by people who actually train the military. I have always
    assumed the material was important and would pay dividends to work on
    but I have not seen confirmation that it is used in a life death
    situation. It was not clear if the "camp perry crowd" were academics
    who were divorced from the reality of the fight. Sometimes other
    classes on this material feel more like a yoga class then a self
    defense class. Nope this is the real deal and was stressed as
    important by Jack and Sean.

    Sean M. Covered closer and faster shooting. The material here was
    very similar to what you see in any advanced (beyond basic) pistol
    class. We did some multi target drills (move your eyes then the gun
    and you will not overshoot), we did some quick trigger press drills
    "shoot NOW" (very much like "Week 110: Jerk The Trigger") which
    morphed into a "Bill drill". I think we were shooting 1 magazine at 7
    yards into a 3 1/2 inch circle. We practiced reloads and other
    standards. Really its the sort of drills you get from:
    Langdon/TLG/Stoeger just done with rifle.

    Sean was very approachable. I remember asking a question to him on the
    last day, and I thought "where did that question come from? it has
    nothing to do with the material and is not even an interesting
    question." and Sean stopped walking thought about it and gave me a
    complete answer to what I thought was an asinine question. So props
    to him for taking every question seriously and listening to his
    students.

    The there were several individually timed exercises throughout the
    class. The "final" was a stand/kneel/prone shoot with a bit of running
    to different position with longer range targets. The instructors
    clearly had much more material they wished to cover then there was
    time for, I saw them cutting their syllabus as we went along.

    There were tons of other PF people helping out, mostly they were
    watching for safety issues and giving advice when they saw something
    which needs correcting. So the class ran smoothly with about 20 people
    and several different ranges it could have been a logistical
    nightmare.


    It was quite incredible that a FREE class had additional FREE stuff,
    but I was stunned to find there was MORE stuff included in the class.

    1) There was a catered first night "get to know you dinner"
    (bacon wrapped scallops, bacon wrapped pineapple, salad, meatloaf,
    chicken in capers and lemon, roast potatoes and lots of people brought scotch)

    2) There was a AR belt mag holder by Rich at
    http://shop.customcarryconcepts.com/

    3) Asthon gave out bottles of his AR15 lubricant, evidently no one sat
    down and designed a lube specifically for the AR, looking at the
    conditions an AR operates in and the commercially available lubricant
    additives and mixes. He has his own formulation which is not
    commercially sold but is available from him.

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