I think the big names wanted to game to win and IDPA went along.
Walther PPK/S, 380, 3.3", 24oz, DA/SA
Sig P250 380ACP, 3.6", DAO, 19.4oz
Sig P232, 3.6", DAO, 23.6oz.
Hi-Point 380ACP, 3.5", DAO, 29oz.
Cobra Freedom FS380, 3.5", 24oz. DAO
Bersa Thunder 380, 3.5", 20oz, DA/SA
Bersa 380CC, 3.3", 16.4oz, DA/SA
Glock 42, 380ACP, 3.26", 13.8oz
S&W M&P Shield, 9mm, 3.1", 19oz. DAO
Kahr K9, 9mm, 3.47", 25oz, DAO
Kahr CW9, 9mm, 3.6", 16oz, DAO
HK USP 9C, 9mm, 3.6", 26oz, DA/SA, DAO
Sig P250SC9B, 9mm, 3.6", 25oz, DAO
Sig 320SC-9, 3.6", 25oz, DAO
Springfield XDS, 9mm, 3.3", 23oz. Striker, DAO
Springfield EMP, 9mm, 3.0", 27oz, SAO
Kimber CDP II Ultra, 9mm, 3.0", 25oz, SAO
Beretta Nano, 9mm, 3", 19.5oz, DAO
STI Lawman, 9mm, 3.24", 25oz, SAO
CZ 2075 RAMI, 9mm, 3.0", 25oz, DA/SA
Glock 26, 9mm, 3.42", 23.5oz, DAO
Other
Dan Wesson ECO, 9mm, 3.5", 25oz
Walther P99C, 9mm, 3.5", 21oz
Walther PPS, 9mm, 3.2", 21oz
S&W M&P Compact, 3.5", DAO, 21.7oz.
I think the big names wanted to game to win and IDPA went along.
Got a BUG shoot coming up at the July (mostly) police not-quite-IDPA league match.
I am torn between a real BUG - Colt Gov't .380 or a short service pistol, SA UC.
Both operate like my regular belt carry Commander and competition 1911 types.
As to the gamers and rule revisions, my little Gov't 380 was hot stuff under the old definition and I had just put a fibre optic front and a 1911 rear on so I could better see what I was shooting at. Then they rewrote the definition and it is now both less competitive and of no collector value.
Last edited by Jim Watson; 06-15-2016 at 10:00 AM.
Are they rounding numbers? P2000 barrel is 3.66, would that work?
i used to wannabe
Sorry to necro post, but I just wanted to confirm, shooting a .40 cal pistol with a 9mm conversion barrel would be legal for BUG division (same as ESP) right? Thinking of trying my hand at BUG with the M&P 40 converted to 9.
I had to vote other because you neglected to list the glock 27. That's my CCP and Bug gun. 40 caliber the best of both worlds, almost as big as a 45 and almost as fast as a 9mm as much energy downrange as a 9mm and more penetration and a hole almost as big as 45.
Disagree on that having had a 26 and 27. The 27 wasn't as comfortable to shoot, has lesser number of rounds and as we discuss all the time, the differences between modern 9s and 40s and 45s are not that important.
Due to the new IDPA rules for BUG Guns, it is time to deprecate this thread.
I will work on a new one with BUG and CCP Guns.
Cody
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