I'd love to hear more about this.Originally Posted by CCT125US
I'd love to hear more about this.
#RESIST
At this link, beyond Bundy and team celebrations is info about Nevada moving to take BLM land back. http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/1...still-winning/
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I get really tired of hearing this crap. Just because I'm from California, it doesn't make me a socialist or part of a plague of "zombie locusts" conspiring with the other welfare cases to ruin your little piece of flyover country. I'm pro-gun, and anti-big government. I vote against taxes and the politicians that propose them every chance I get.
If you replaced "Californian" with Jew/Black/Mexican/Gay would you still comfortable making sweeping generalizations in a public forum about people you've never met?
It sucks, dude, and I love California, but there's electoral evidence that most of your in-state co-residents embrace certain political values, and that sensible folks like you are the exception that proves the rule. And that coincidentally, in states like Colorado, where many of your ex-coresidents are now my coresidents, the politics are shifting in a decidedly Californian direction....
The answer, it seems to me, is wrath. The mind cannot foresee its own advance. --FA Hayek Specialization is for insects.
Believe me man, I know that most of the people that live here vote against their own self-interest and and embrace political values that I disagree with. However, I still think it is unfair to lump all California residents in together.It sucks, dude, and I love California, but there's electoral evidence that most of your in-state co-residents embrace certain political values, and that sensible folks like you are the exception that proves the rule. And that coincidentally, in states like Colorado, where many of your ex-coresidents are now my coresidents, the politics are shifting in a decidedly Californian direction....
For example, I don't think most folks would say something like, "71% of Latinos that voted in the 2012 election voted for Barack Obama. Those Latinos are a zombie locusts plague that is going to ruin the country if they decide to leave the Southwest."
Getting back on topic, it has been pretty sad to watch the decline of the San Joaquin Valley over the last few years. You can't drive down Interstate 5 without seeing dozens of signs lamenting the "Congress Created Dust Bowl". My maternal grandparents recently had to sell the family farm in the Delta-region because it was impossible to turn a profit anymore. At what cost does a species "deserve" to be protected?
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I don't know, man. If there was evidence that Obama supporters were moving in droves to blue states and transforming the electorates there, I think I would totally say that.
But you're right, it's not objectively fair. Places like Colorado and Texas blame the bluification of their electorate on Californian immigrants, when in reality the internal changes in these places - like intense urbanization and leftist demagoguery - are more of the root cause.
The answer, it seems to me, is wrath. The mind cannot foresee its own advance. --FA Hayek Specialization is for insects.
I don't lump them together, really.
I am just annoyed when I encounter someone from California or New York who moved away from those places because they were ruinously expensive and difficult to actually do anything in and then in, Virginia let's say, bitches and moans about how our government should work more like it does "back home".
I have encountered this quite a lot.
3/15/2016
What do you expect, though? If those folks were familiar with rational thinking, they'd have never voted for all that stupidity "back home." What they do is magical thinking, and from that perspective it makes total sense that "something awful happened" back home to ruin a perfectly good situation. But the omens and portents are back to being good now, so...wait. Hold on a sec. Did this barista not hear me order this at 130 degrees?!?
The answer, it seems to me, is wrath. The mind cannot foresee its own advance. --FA Hayek Specialization is for insects.
Whoa! No one said anything about all Californians (or New Yorkers) being zombie locusts--those who can still think for themselves aren't "zombies." But the truth is that a lot of people who are leaving the socialist paradises of California, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Maryland and others are indeed zombie-like. They are leaving because jobs are hard to find, the quality of life is declining, and taxes keep increasing. They move to some less taxed and regulated state (which likely will have far more Constitutional gun laws as part of the package) and immediately start voting the way they did previously because it is literally unthinkable to them not to vote for the big-government anti-gun candidate. Because to them voting is almost a fashion statement and they want to show that while they have left their increasingly unlivable home state they still "stand for progressive values."
That is a zombie locust--after destroying their own home states they move on and destroy someplace else.
Now are there a lot of non-zombie Californians? Absolutely--40% of the voters vote against the destructive politics of the leftists and the government unions. And when they move out of state they usually don't act like zombie locusts.
But huge numbers do. I know too many of them (Californians, New Yorkers and the like) and no amount of talking to them will get them to change. Indeed, many of them think that precisely because they are from California or New York or wherever they are more sophisticated and intelligent than the locals and are eager to instruct them on how things are done in a sophisticated and intelligent state like California or New York.
To recycle old content:
It's true that some folks will move if the regulatory environment where they live becomes too stifling for them; it's the other kind you have to worry about. Just ask the residents of Colorado or Oregon, they'll tell you all about it. The refugees to worry about are the ones who say "Ooh, everything is so crowded and dirty and icky and taxes are so high and everything costs so much and there's so many Mexicans!" and leave for Boise or Eugene or Boulder or Prescott, and build a home in a little subdivision, and demand more parks and security cameras in the schools and why don't we have more water for the sprinklers in my lawn? and let's hire more police officers so they can arrest people who speed in our subdivision and we better picket that gun store downtown because the children can't be exposed to guns and we need bilingual streetsigns so as not to be discriminatory and surely raising property taxes just a little to raise money for a performing arts center would be good...
...and wonder why their new home rapidly turns into the same festering cesspit they just crawled out of.
Some folks may be leaving California looking for freedom, but these guys are just leaving to find more comfortable chains that don't make them look fat.
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