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Thread: Speer Gold Dot Duty Rifle 75gr load?

  1. #51
    Yeah I had a feeling these would be anemic out of a barrel under 16" Glad I waited to purchase these. Why aren't these ammo manuf. pushing these heavier loads faster. With a test barrel of 24" at 2775 common sense tells us it will be useless out of a 10.5" barrel. These should be at 3000fps from a 20" barrel. Thanks for the testing though.
    Last edited by Stone; 11-22-2015 at 03:08 PM.

  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    Well, I called it. One guy chronograph ed it at 2424fps from a noveske polygonal 14.5, and 2199 from a 10.5 polygonal. Fail.
    they didn't test out of a 16?

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    As a general rule of thumb I use 50fps per inch of barrel for guesstimating fps. Not an exact science but gets me in the ball park. So around 2500 on a 16"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Yeah I had a feeling these would be anemic out of a barrel under 16" Glad I waited to purchase these. Why aren't these ammo manuf. pushing these heavier loads faster. With a test barrel of 24" at 2775 common sense tells us it will be useless out of a 10.5" barrel. These should be at 3000fps from a 20" barrel. Thanks for the testing though.
    They will probably run around 2550-2600 from a 20" barrel, given the powder ATK uses.
    Last edited by Unobtanium; 11-22-2015 at 08:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    Well, I called it. One guy chronograph ed it at 2424fps from a noveske polygonal 14.5, and 2199 from a 10.5 polygonal. Fail.
    I'm not sure what results your going to see with 100-150 fps more in 5.56 pressures. Folks asked for 5.56 pressures for reliability in short barrels. If you want MV, go with the 50-55 gr rounds. If you want more mass, then understand they are going to be slower. The 60 gr offerings are a good compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JF1 View Post
    I'm not sure what results your going to see with 100-150 fps more in 5.56 pressures. Folks asked for 5.56 pressures for reliability in short barrels. If you want MV, go with the 50-55 gr rounds. If you want more mass, then understand they are going to be slower. The 60 gr offerings are a good compromise.
    That's a 300fps loss over other 75 and 77gr stuff. Fail.
    Last edited by Unobtanium; 11-26-2015 at 08:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    That's a 300fps loss over other 75 and 77gr stuff. Fail.
    but whats its effect on targets...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakingtime91 View Post
    but whats its effect on targets...?
    About 100 yards less effective range than it could have. Remember, under about 1800fps, it's just a tiny pistol round.

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    I regressed Speer's data on the 75gr Gold Dot, and achieved a functional BC of 0.4.

    I verified this by plugging in 0.222 for their 55gr load, and 0.27 for their 62gr load (this is the 64gr load's published BC).---These are published BC's.

    I checked all residual velocities at 300 yards with the calculator. Using the above data, All of the loads were within a dozen FPS of the published data, using published MV.

    It seems for all the world that Speer is claiming a 0.4 +- 0.01 BC for their 75gr load. I have not found it published, but the velocity data regressed indicates such, directly.

    Feel free to check my work.


    http://federalpremium.com/downloads/...sue/index.html

    *The 75gr Sciroco II is 0.419, and the GD looks at LEAST as streamlined, with a slightly blunter tip...so maybe it's legit?

    Here is a revised chart, using 0.4 as the BC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Unobtanium View Post
    I regressed Speer's data on the 75gr Gold Dot, and achieved a functional BC of 0.4.

    I verified this by plugging in 0.222 for their 55gr load, and 0.27 for their 62gr load (this is the 64gr load's published BC).---These are published BC's.

    I checked all residual velocities at 300 yards with the calculator. Using the above data, All of the loads were within a dozen FPS of the published data, using published MV.

    It seems for all the world that Speer is claiming a 0.4 +- 0.01 BC for their 75gr load. I have not found it published, but the velocity data regressed indicates such, directly.

    Feel free to check my work.


    http://federalpremium.com/downloads/...sue/index.html

    *The 75gr Sciroco II is 0.419, and the GD looks at LEAST as streamlined, with a slightly blunter tip...so maybe it's legit?

    Here is a revised chart, using 0.4 as the BC.

    Hopefully you are right with that ballistic coefficient. Sometimes dropping velocity in a load will make it more accurate(less bullet stress), and perhaps the 75gr design reduces the case capacity such that case capacity is reduced.

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