USMC Approves Glock 19 for MARSOC.

[jetfire]

I think it will be the beginning.

Times are changing. I was on active duty when the Beretta came on line. I think one of the advantages the Beretta had on the SIG at the time was the safety. Think back to the late 1970's and early 1980's and count how many auto's didn't have a safety lever. Fast forward to now. Count how many Beretta threads where folks complain about the safety lever on the Beretta. We are now through a generation plus, with the primary guns in civilian and law enforcement use having no manual safety at all. Even among the oldest and highest ranking of the current military decision makers, most probably have more experience with handguns without a manual safety than with a manual safety. Not having a manual safety on a handgun is not as big a deal today as it was back in the early 1980's.

Back in the 70s and early 80s the primary guns in LE didn't have safeties. They also had cylinders and didn't hold a lot of ammo, but they didn't have safeties. ;-)

[Odin Bravo One]

20 minutes of my life reading this............I'll never get back.

[GardoneVT]

I think it will be the beginning.

Times are changing. I was on active duty when the Beretta came on line.

As a young-er shooter, i'd even be bold enough to say hammer fired DA/SA guns are as obsolete as public phone booths. Even considering the DoDs woeful training problem, our line troops would be better off ND'ing lighter handguns with greater capacity and better ergonomics.

[KevinB]

The problem isn't the gear, its the climate which says Cultural Awareness PowerPoints trump properly executed handgun training. Yet that's the default policy for most of the GOVERNMENT.

FIFY

[JSGlock34]

Beretta won the M9 contract because they underbid SIG not because the 92 had a manual safety.


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[Savage Hands]

Beretta won the M9 contract because they underbid SIG not because the 92 had a manual safety.


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And the lack of competition in the early 80's...

[JBP55]

USMC Pistols Authorized FY15.

THE FOLLOWING PISTOLS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR APT:
ITEM/NOMENCLATURE TAMCN
PISTOL, M9 E1250
PISTOL, M9A1 E1245
PISTOL, CLOSE QUARTER BATTLE,
45 CAL M45A1 E1251
PISTOL, GLOCK-19, MARSOC, WITH
ASSOCIATED HOLSTER AND EQUIPMENT Q0009
5. THE FOLLOWING EQUIPMENT IS AUTHORIZED FOR APT:
ITEM/NOMENCLATURE NSN/PART NUMBER WEAPON SYSTEMS
USMC HOLSTER KIT
(12140B/RH SHOOTER)* 8465015985722 M9/M9A1
USMC HOLSTER KIT
(12140A/LH SHOOTER)* 8465015986377 M9/M9A1
PISTOL HOLSTER
(RH SHOOTER) 999-01-L00-7432 M45A1
PISTOL HOLSTER
(LH SHOOTER) 999-01-L00-7433 M45A1
PISTOL HOLSTER
W/LIGHT (RH SHOOTER) 999-01-L00-7437 M45A1
PISTOL HOLSTER
W/LIGHT (LH SHOOTER) 999-01-L00-7439 M45A1

[Comedian]

Yup, just like a lot of other folks...

Kind of makes one wonder why so many shooters want to be special and different with somewhat bizarre choices like Walthers, XD, Caracal, Taurus, or whatever the flavor of the month is, instead of sticking with well proven and supported handgun options that have been demonstrated reliability and durability in combat/duty conditions.

See the "Passion of the Gun" thread.

[Comedian]

Because not everyone is jumping out of a helicopter with a knife in their teeth?

Even if i was jumping out of helicopters, i would rather have a VP9 going with me than a Glock.

[Nephrology]

Even if i was jumping out of helicopters, i would rather have a VP9 going with me than a Glock.

honestly if I am jumping out of a helicopter it's really six of one half dozen of another when it comes to handgun selection... I would have a lot more on my mind than pistols.