Introducing the "TxT" target

[jlw]

Regular user of the PF target.

The updated PF target has a dark 3x5 head box, which when taped with black pastors stays usable longer, and is easier visible at 25 yards. Not sure about seeing this one at distance, and quickly at speed with the thinner line designating it.

We use all the two inch dots and one inch squares on the current PF target. Even wish there were more one inch squares on current model. Casino things are too large to replace the two inch dots.

Not sure how you will tape the casino things, unless you come with a lot of different color tape. Also looks like this target will lead to a violation of Bill Wilson's #1 range rule -- DO NOT SHOOT THE FURRING STRIPS holding up the targets.

Those are legit critiques in some aspects, but off the mark in others.

We use cardboard backers that are on uprights with a 24" center. The widest edges of the paper on these targets is 23". If at seven yards your are missing so badly that you are hitting the uprights, you shouldn't be playing with guns.

The FAST is shot at 7 yards and not 25; so, the head box being visible at 25 yards was not factored into the design. The head shots on the Rangemaster qualification course and the GA SQC are not shot at 25 yards; so, again, seeing the head box at 25 yards wasn't a priority of the design. It is also of note that on our standard state target, the scoring boxes are drawn with very faint dotted lines specifically so that they can't be seen from a distance. The idea behind that is so that shooters will go for center mass of the appropriate area and not at boxes on the target. While you may disagree, I would hear the exact opposite from the GALEFI board which has say on targets that are used for qualifications here.

The Casino Drill is shot on the colored shapes represented, and not 2" circles; so, replacing them with 2" circles was not contemplated.

As for repairing the head box, I figured simply using a 3x5 index card would work.

If a shooter puts up a target and has a 50 round box of ammo, they could run the FAST once and the Casino twice on the same target. All that would need to be marked on the Casino would be misses. The shapes could be negative targets on the second run. Having shot the Casino twice on the same target, I know it works. I understand that it wouldn't hold up to sustained running of the Casino. That's why I buy plenty of targets...

Both Tom and Todd reviewed the target prior to my sending it to the printer. It's the TxT; not the TxTxGJM.

[JAD]

Chief, what is the target currently printed on? If it's paper, could you please bump this thread when and if a cardboard version becomes available?

[jlw]

Chief, what is the target currently printed on? If it's paper, could you please bump this thread when and if a cardboard version becomes available?

It's currently only on paper. I haven't explored the possibility of cardboard. Would the price of the multi-color printing make the end product too expensive?

[GJM]

It's the TxT; not the TxTxGJM.

In that case it is perfect.

[JAD]

It's currently only on paper. I haven't explored the possibility of cardboard. Would the price of the multi-color printing make the end product too expensive?

It may be so. I'd be willing to pay $200/50, which would be a pretty expensive target.

[Little Creek]

After participating in the Social Levergun Class as a student, this target is one great training aid. It sure beats putting up a bunch of 6" paper plates and numbering and/or painting them. Bravo!

[Chuck Whitlock]

Chief, what is the target currently printed on? If it's paper, could you please bump this thread when and if a cardboard version becomes available?

It's currently only on paper. I haven't explored the possibility of cardboard. Would the price of the multi-color printing make the end product too expensive?

Chief,
Unless you have an exclusive arrangement with your supplier, you might feel these outfits out:

http://omahatargets.com/RetailSite.asp

http://targetsonline.com/

for cardstock versions. Not much more expensive than paper, and most of the benefits of cardboard.

[MVS]

Ordered some yesterday. The sweet spot for quantity price break seems to be 250 targets.

[jlw]

Chief,
Unless you have an exclusive arrangement with your supplier, you might feel these outfits out:

http://omahatargets.com/RetailSite.asp

http://targetsonline.com/

for cardstock versions. Not much more expensive than paper, and most of the benefits of cardboard.

I approached Omaha Targets first as I had met one of their guys at a conference. They wanted an upfront minimum order beyond what I could muster. I understand and appreciate their position, but it boiled down to if I wanted the target printed, I was going to have to be an unpaid salesperson for them. Gun Fun did a run and warehoused them for me to order as needed making it possible for me to get the targets I wanted. They are selling really well. Omaha should have listened.

I'm not making anything from the sales.

[jlw]

Ordered some yesterday. The sweet spot for quantity price break seems to be 250 targets.

For my personal orders, 250 is the amount that I order.