Yeah, I get that Caleb. That's fair. Although I know a good number of folks that would likely argue something like the 26 is darn near as shootable as its larger counterparts and as shootable as a snubbed K or L frame. I guess maybe I'm just whining because the word was that they were going to change the limit to 3.5" barreled semis which would take my personal BUG (the 239) out of the class while leaving the mini-STIs in.
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I'm thinking there should be a weight limit in there somewhere.Originally Posted by taadski
Yeah, I get that Caleb. That's fair. Although I know a good number of folks that would likely argue something like the 26 is darn near as shootable as its larger counterparts and as shootable as a snubbed K or L frame. I guess maybe I'm just whining because the word was that they were going to change the limit to 3.5" barreled semis which would take my personal BUG (the 239) out of the class while leaving the mini-STIs in.
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I haven't seen a mini STI, but I'd guess it would make a poor ankle gun.
"Spirit of BUG", meh. The spirit of IDPA went out the window when the first shots went downrange. If you shoot IDPA as though your life is on the line you might get an attaboy from the SO, but you'll be dead last in the results. It's a game with arbitrary rules, nothing more. Play it by the "spirit" and forget you're competing against others, or play it to win with every advantage you can use.
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True enough perhaps, although my 239 isn't an ideal ankle gun either, but that didn't keep me from carrying it there for a number of years. I think it's a reasonable size for a BUG. [shrug] But agreed, the line has to be drawn somewhere I suppose.
The Lawman 3.0 (one example of a compact STI model) weighs in almost 5 ounces lighter than my compact Sig with a similar overall size profile and a sub 3.5" barrel. FWIW.
http://www.stiguns.com/the-sti-lawman-3-0/
As someone who shoots a Walther P99c (3.5" barrel, basically spec-wise identical to a G26 apart from being DA/SA w/decocker) in USPSA Production because it's what I have, I tend to agree with that sentiment. Sure, if I had a full-size P99 or a PPQ, it'd be a bit easier to get a consistent grip out of the holster, and a bit easier to control recoil, but for truly competitive level shooters, I bet the speed difference would be pretty small. Me, on the other hand, I dunno. I did win a stage last month, but at least one of the people who usually beats me totally blew it on that stage, so...am I trying to talk myself into or out of buying a full-size P99 here? I'll quit clogging up/drifting the thread now... :P
Yup, I get it. I've worn guns as big as Glock 26/27s and S&W 6906s as ankle guns in the past.
I remember using a G19 as an ankle gun just to prove it was possible... And it didn't carry too bad.
I hate carrying any gun on my ankle, but I know a surprising number of guys and gals who carry G23's and even 1 who carries a G22 on their ankle.
fwiw, I shot a 3" SS K frame at the first BUG nationals. I chose it for a variety of reasons, one of which was that it was firmly within the rules. If its in the rules, it isn't a cheater gun. Period. Its a game.
Also, fwiw, I found the all SS construction to be a big detriment in many of the lighting situations that were presented. Given the power, or lack thereof, of the ammo I was shooting (also within the rules), I wish I had chosen my blued 442 instead. I've won money with that gun shooting plates at 50 yards, and I'm convinced I would have shot a higher score with it. But, as long as its within the rules, to each his own.
Highlighted and quoted for truth. It's no different than the old days of IDPA where guys were running 5" 625's with ammo that would make a 125PF just barely. It was legal, I found a way to beat a few of them with a 3" 686 and Comp2 speedloaders. It made me step up my game. For that matter,it's no different than a shooter now running an L frame sized gun with a slicked up action against folks shooting K frame sized guns with stock triggers. Ever since he won I've sensed quite a bit of angst aimed at his choice of firearm, or maybe it's just the fact that he won....again....with a revolver.
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I ankle carried a G27 in an Alessi for years, as well as G19s and G23s. What constitutes a BUG is certainly subject to definition and mission. We've wrestled with this in local clubs trying to get BUG/pocket gun matches together. As we kicked around rules, it was obvious that having a match truer to its spirit and intent required a well crafted guest list more than rule book.
If we were to construct such a set of rules though, what does it look like?
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