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    Quote Originally Posted by Suvorov View Post

    And the book end! Best one in my opinion!

    Part IV was a hoot. I didn't know they had a part III and IV. The original was "required" viewing during indoc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2xAGM114 View Post
    Part IV was a hoot. I didn't know they had a part III and IV. The original was "required" viewing during indoc.
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  3. #323
    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Guy View Post
    Ant thoughts on this incident from the p-f pilot collective?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/audio-rec...141104925.html

    " A tense cockpit recording revealed the moments an Air France pilot struggled to control his Boeing 777 during an aborted landing in Paris on Tuesday.

    The aircraft, a Boeing 777-300ER, landed on a second attempt at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris on Tuesday morning after an overnight flight from New York.

    Radio communication between air traffic controllers and one of the aircraft pilots was first published by industry news site AirLive and has since been verified to CNN by the French aviation safety investigators, the Bureau d'Enquêtes et d'Analyses (BEA).

    It suggests the pilots could not control the plane as it approached the runway for landing. In the audio, one of the pilots can be heard grunting and panting as alarms sound in the cockpit.

    "Stop it, stop it," he is heard saying.

    The air traffic controller then says that he has noticed that the plane has veered left away from the runway and instructs the pilot to "stop approach ... immediately."

    "I call you back," the pilot says.

    After several seconds, the pilot informs air traffic control that he has stabilized the aircraft but was forced to perform a go-around after it "didn't respond." " ...

    In case you missed the update: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ea-2022-04-28/

    PARIS, April 28 (Reuters) - Air France pilots who reported their Boeing 777 was failing to respond while preparing to land earlier this month simultaneously pulled the controls in opposite directions, French investigators said...

    "The captain held the control column in a slightly nose-down position while the co-pilot made several, more pronounced, nose-up inputs," the report said...

    The Boeing 777 is equipped with control columns that move in sympathy with each other to aid co-ordination. Experts say only one pilot is usually expected to be actively flying at a time.

    If opposing forces on the two columns pass a certain limit, the link between them is deactivated or "desynchronised" to prevent accidents in the case of one side getting jammed.

    After the landing scare, the pilots analysed the situation but did not notice that they had made contradictory inputs nor that the columns had become decoupled, the BEA said."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Guy View Post
    In case you missed the update: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ea-2022-04-28/

    PARIS, April 28 (Reuters) - Air France pilots who reported their Boeing 777 was failing to respond while preparing to land earlier this month simultaneously pulled the controls in opposite directions, French investigators said...

    "The captain held the control column in a slightly nose-down position while the co-pilot made several, more pronounced, nose-up inputs," the report said...

    The Boeing 777 is equipped with control columns that move in sympathy with each other to aid co-ordination. Experts say only one pilot is usually expected to be actively flying at a time.

    If opposing forces on the two columns pass a certain limit, the link between them is deactivated or "desynchronised" to prevent accidents in the case of one side getting jammed.

    After the landing scare, the pilots analysed the situation but did not notice that they had made contradictory inputs nor that the columns had become decoupled, the BEA said."
    I wonder who was supposed to be flying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC_P View Post
    I wonder who was supposed to be flying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Guy View Post
    In case you missed the update: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ea-2022-04-28/

    PARIS, April 28 (Reuters) - Air France pilots who reported their Boeing 777 was failing to respond while preparing to land earlier this month simultaneously pulled the controls in opposite directions, French investigators said...

    "The captain held the control column in a slightly nose-down position while the co-pilot made several, more pronounced, nose-up inputs," the report said...

    The Boeing 777 is equipped with control columns that move in sympathy with each other to aid co-ordination. Experts say only one pilot is usually expected to be actively flying at a time.

    If opposing forces on the two columns pass a certain limit, the link between them is deactivated or "desynchronised" to prevent accidents in the case of one side getting jammed.

    After the landing scare, the pilots analysed the situation but did not notice that they had made contradictory inputs nor that the columns had become decoupled, the BEA said."
    I thought "I have the airplane" "your airplane" was pretty basic CRM. I mean, jeebus, I've done that in a small prop plane with another pilot in the other seat.
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  7. #327
    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie B View Post
    I thought "I have the airplane" "your airplane" was pretty basic CRM. I mean, jeebus, I've done that in a small prop plane with another pilot in the other seat.
    The control columns were not the only thing that had become decoupled.
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    The family plane at a local fly-in today. Biplanes belong on grass strips….



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