In Response to BaiHu.....

[GardoneVT]

Without derailing this thread too much, isn't that like saying "blacklivesmatter" when it comes to a lawful shooting in Ferguson, while ignoring all the "blacklivesmatter" in the inner cities? If all lives matter, then all lives matter. Why not cover the daily genocide in Africa? Isn't their consistent plight even worse than our "occasional" plight?

My answer is here to prevent a thread drift.

Black lives indeed do matter. Not the ones being shot daily in Chicago's less desireable environs, and definitely not the black cops in uniform .The lives which matter to the folks in power and in the media are the middle class voters,who are sold a collateralized and innaccurate picture of the world.Its the "Truman Show", writ large and without the cameras.

In some ways, the plight of the North Korean and the typical Chicago resident are frighteningly similar. Both individuals are told by the information sources around them that the world is X, when in fact its Y. Dead Africans doesnt fit into the "Truman Show Bubble" of racist cops and evil gun owners, so its left out of the artifical media environment with the certainty of a North Korean censor. Dead black criminals , however, can be neatly integrated into the "Truman Show" of American media fairly easily, if one omits some minor facts about who the real aggresor was.

[BaiHu]

Well stated and I agree, I just failed to add /sarcasm to my post. I thought it would come through ;{

[GardoneVT]

Well stated and I agree, I just failed to add /sarcasm to my post. I thought it would come through ;{

Way to make a man feel smart ...

[BaiHu]

Fastest. Thread. Ever! Internet high 5!

[Alpha Sierra]

The truth is not all lives matter. Some people forfeit that right by what they do. Their lives do not matter.

[JAD]

Yeah, they do. The right to life isn't something that can be forfeited -- it's not yours to give.

[BaiHu]

In the eyes of the media and pundits of politry (I like making words up) every life can be bought and sold for the express purpose of collecting and disseminating power.

[Totem Polar]

My answer is here to prevent a thread drift.

Black lives indeed do matter. Not the ones being shot daily in Chicago's less desireable environs, and definitely not the black cops in uniform .The lives which matter to the folks in power and in the media are the middle class voters,who are sold a collateralized and innaccurate picture of the world.Its the "Truman Show", writ large and without the cameras.

In some ways, the plight of the North Korean and the typical Chicago resident are frighteningly similar. Both individuals are told by the information sources around them that the world is X, when in fact its Y. Dead Africans doesnt fit into the "Truman Show Bubble" of racist cops and evil gun owners, so its left out of the artifical media environment with the certainty of a North Korean censor. Dead black criminals , however, can be neatly integrated into the "Truman Show" of American media fairly easily, if one omits some minor facts about who the real aggresor was.

I can dig it.

[Alpha Sierra]

Yeah, they do. The right to life isn't something that can be forfeited -- it's not yours to give.

I stand by my statement. An aggresor who uses, or threatens to use, deadly force is now liable to be killed himself. Plenty of legal background to back that up.

May not be mine to give, but it sure is mine to take if that's what's necessary to defend myself.

[JAD]

I stand by my statement. An aggresor who uses, or threatens to use, deadly force is now liable to be killed himself. Plenty of legal background to back that up.

May not be mine to give, but it sure is mine to take if that's what's necessary to defend myself.

Sure, but that isn't your original statement. You said their lives don't matter. They do -- every life matters -- but if an unjust person's life gets taken in the process of stopping their deadly action, it's tolerated. Not accepted -- it's still a calamity -- but it's better than that the just be harmed. The lesser of two evils is still evil.