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    HD AR Build

    So I'm building my second AR. This will be a strictly HD/SD or anything inside 100 yards. What's the shortest barrel I should put on it. At some point I'm going to put a can on it and I want to keep the overall length as short as possible without loosing too much terminal performance.
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    HD AR Build

    10.5 / 11.5 will retain plenty of velocity & reliability. Anything shorter gets really finicky.

    With a typical can length added on, you are looking at just short of a 16" gun.

    This is a PWS Mk110 upper on an M16a1. Suppressor is a AAC 416-SD. Next to it is my patrol gun, a DDM4V1:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay23 View Post
    So I'm building my second AR. This will be a strictly HD/SD or anything inside 100 yards. What's the shortest barrel I should put on it. At some point I'm going to put a can on it and I want to keep the overall length as short as possible without loosing too much terminal performance.
    You didn't specify caliber.....so have you considered 300 Blackout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGS View Post
    You didn't specify caliber.....so have you considered 300 Blackout?
    I was thinking 5.56 or 6.8. Never really considered 300.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuelBLong View Post
    10.5 / 11.5 will retain plenty of velocity & reliability. Anything shorter gets really finicky.

    With a typical can length added on, you are looking at just short of a 16" gun.

    This is a PWS Mk110 upper on an M16a1. Suppressor is a AAC 416-SD. Next to it is my patrol gun, a DDM4V1:


    That is beautiful. Thanks for the info!
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    I'm a fan of 12.5" for a suppressed SBR.
    With my AAC Ranger 2 on a 12.5" barrel it's exactly the same length as a 16" with a A2 flash hider.

    I've found the 12.5" to be far easier to make run and keep running over a variety of ammo (both .223 and 5.56) and when the gun is hot and filthy.
    The 12.5" will also run suppressed and unsuppressed without changing buffers, my 10.5" LMT required a H3 suppressed and a H2 unsuppressed.
    You also get another 75 yards or so of effective range out of a 12.5" vs. a 10.5".
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    I concur on 300BLK. I got to shoot a supressed SBR 300BLK on a recent visit to YHM and it was quite awesome. That's been on my radar for a while as a go to HD rifle, and it certainly cemented it as my next build and purpose for the build.
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    I like 5.56 for home defense. With the right Ammunition ( read DocGKR's article) it works quite well. If you're looking for a home defense suppressor, take a long hard look at the Silencerco SakerK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JodyH View Post
    I'm a fan of 12.5" for a suppressed SBR.
    With my AAC Ranger 2 on a 12.5" barrel it's exactly the same length as a 16" with a A2 flash hider.

    I've found the 12.5" to be far easier to make run and keep running over a variety of ammo (both .223 and 5.56) and when the gun is hot and filthy.
    The 12.5" will also run suppressed and unsuppressed without changing buffers, my 10.5" LMT required a H3 suppressed and a H2 unsuppressed.
    You also get another 75 yards or so of effective range out of a 12.5" vs. a 10.5".
    Why no 11.5"?
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    I don't have enough time on a 11.5 to have an opinion either way.
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