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Thread: WWII exploding rifle ammo

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    WWII exploding rifle ammo

    https://www.full30.com/video/82efb57...205966ef3d3c9d

    The folks behind "Forgotten Weapons" got their hands on some Soviet 7.62x54R "PZ" and German 7.92x57mm B-patrone explosive ammo, and decided to do some (crude) tests to see if they lived up to the hype. I have no idea what 'ballistic soap' is, or how it compares to correct ballistic gel, but it's still interesting to see how the loads perform compared to ball ammo.

    I would love to see proper testing on this ammo, if only to put it into perspective compared to modern projectiles. I've seen similar exit wounds while shooting whitetail deer with 150gr Nosler Ballistic Tips from my .308 Model Seven, for instance, and with our modern preference for penetration, I'm curious as to how these old 'marking cartridges' would fare.

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    Interesting for sure..

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    So ... ballistic soap is designed to show the temporary cavity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JV View Post
    So ... ballistic soap is designed to show the temporary cavity?
    I'd never heard of ballistic soap prior to this video, so your guess is as good as mine.

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    Interesting that the German B-Patrone was only permitted for use against the Soviets and not the Western Allies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredM View Post
    Interesting that the German B-Patrone was only permitted for use against the Soviets and not the Western Allies.
    Richard Law's book on Kar98k sniper rifles has a translation of Hitler's order, as well as some back story on it.

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    If you have a chance read Sniper on the Eastern Front. Sepp Allerberger who was awarded a Knights Cross used a Mosin sniper rifle before being sent to sniper school. He was always trying to find the explosive rounds.


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    I can see why guys would get the urge to try and make their bad guys explode in a cloud of pink mist, but I have to wonder what accuracy levels this ammo had, and how it effected zero

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    Umm...

    Anyone know a source for this in .45ACP?

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