Agreed on this, and I'll add that it seems to be built like a tank. Plus, dat warranty! Sean M has some amount of time with mine, maybe he'll see this thread and share his take.Originally Posted by joshs
Agreed on this, and I'll add that it seems to be built like a tank. Plus, dat warranty! Sean M has some amount of time with mine, maybe he'll see this thread and share his take.
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I think the easiest way to select an optic is to decide on which features you really want because certain features are only available in a few optics. For example, most of the 1-x optics in the Vortex price range have similar glass, but very few have truly daylight bright illumination, and even fewer have a daylight bright dot. I really like having the dot, but lack of a daylight bright dot can be mostly overcome with good reticle design. I actually like the dots in the Vortex and VX-6 more than the Swaro Z6i because they are smaller and red instead of amber.
These are the features I really care about in a 1-x:
Good reticle: usable throughout the power range with and without illumination preferably with 1 or 1/2 mil holds for elevation and windage (I think in mils, so this will be highly user dependent). For me, smaller than 1 mil subtensions are more distracting than beneficial until the upper magnification range gets to about 8x.
Forgiving eyebox: my primary use for this type of scope is 3gun so being able to quickly get behind the optic with no shadowing is very important. This is also important throughout the power range. Some scopes are ok on 1x, but have very tight eyeboxes at the upper magnification.
Daylight bright dot: as discussed above, lack of this feature can be overcome with a good reticle design. Those that work the best for me without a dot are the SWFA 1-4, USO 1-4 DFP, and the Trijicon VCOG segmented circle reticle.
Good field of view: again this matters throughout the power range
That 11 oz. is huge IMO. It's the primary thing that has me looking at the VX6 with Firedot Circle reticle.
Maybe if we all email Leupold telling them to put a better reticle in the VX6 it will finally work. I've heard from two people at Leupold that they are working on a BDC reticle for the VX-6, which would be an improvement, but I'd prefer if they incorporated a mil "christmas tree" in the current German #4 reticle.
The mil thing makes no difference to me for my use. I don't know how to use them, and don't have any real interest in taking the time to learn. At best, I'd use them as holdover hashmarks at known distances. I just don't get to shoot at distance enough for it to matter. I with the VXR patrol was a true 1x, or closer to it, since the 6x really is overkill for me.
I really just want the lightest 4x or 6x Aimpoint replacement.
Then the VX6 in an Aero Precision mount is probably perfect for you.
I really like my Meopta Meostar K-Dot 1-4X.
Very bright uncluttered reticle and super clear glass.
Ive used it hard on my 3-gun carbine and its never let me down.
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Have you used that mount? I was leaning heavily towards one but (A) I can't figure out how much extension I'd need for that optic and AP isn't helping, and (B) have seen some people allude to the mounting system not holding securely to the flattop.
I'm using AP mounts with my Vortex and VX6. I haven't had any zero shifting issues, but I've only been using the mounts for about 6 months. I'm more worried about the scope shifting in the rings than the mount shifting on the upper. The AP mount has three cross pieces compared to the usual two, but there are only two screws per ring, which is how they get the super low weight.
I shoot pretty far back on the stock (I'm 5'7" and use an A2 stock), and I use the extended model for the Vortex and the standard model for the VX6. Both are mounted as far forward on the upper receiver as they can go, and the scopes are mounted forward in the mounts. If you shoot NTCH or close to it, I would get their newer SPR mount which has the most amount of cantilever. Even if you don't need all of the cantilever, you could still move the scope back in the mount or move the mount back a few slots on the upper.
That reassures me a bit, and sounds like a good solution on the mounting issue.
Thanks.
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