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    In my Glocks the 115gr. +P+ Penetrators run great with zero issues.

    In my Wilson Commander 9mm the Penetrators spit the primers out almost as far as the empty casings go.
    Out of 11 rounds shot, 9 of them blew out the primers.

    I'm guessing a tighter chamber and/or shorter lead is squeezing every last PSI out of them to the point of over pressure.

    I'll save the +P+ Underwood for my Glocks, blowing primers 90% of the time isn't worth messing around with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JodyH View Post
    Thread resurrection.

    In my Glocks the 115gr. +P+ Penetrators run great with zero issues.

    In my Wilson Commander 9mm the Penetrators spit the primers out almost as far as the empty casings go.
    Out of 11 rounds shot, 9 of them blew out the primers.

    I'm guessing a tighter chamber and/or shorter lead is squeezing every last PSI out of them to the point of over pressure.

    I'll save the +P+ Underwood for my Glocks, blowing primers 90% of the time isn't worth messing around with.
    Well, that's not good! Blown primers in a pistol a pretty good sign to not use those in that gun. Is the brass deformed? I once had a kaboom in a .40 1911, and wouldn't recommend the experience.

    Quick question: after the first blown primer, why the fuck did you fire another one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    Well, that's not good! Blown primers in a pistol a pretty good sign to not use those in that gun. Is the brass deformed? I once had a kaboom in a .40 1911, and wouldn't recommend the experience.

    Quick question: after the first blown primer, why the fuck did you fire another one?
    Brass looks normal, real easy to prep for reloading as well if I was into that kind of thing.

    About 3/4 of the way through the magazine I thought I was seeing something weird ejecting along with the brass.
    I'd see brass fly out to the right and something smaller fly straight up.
    Of course I had to shoot another couple rounds to verify... the recoil impulses all felt normal and the pistol cycled normally so I wasn't that concerned.
    It was only when I started looking around for what was flying out that I noticed the primerless casings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JodyH View Post
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    In my Wilson Commander 9mm the Penetrators spit the primers out almost as far as the empty casings go.
    Out of 11 rounds shot, 9 of them blew out the primers.
    I don't know if it could happen in 9 rounds but you might want to examine the breech face of that gun for pitting or other signs of gas cutting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JodyH View Post
    Thread resurrection.

    In my Glocks the 115gr. +P+ Penetrators run great with zero issues.

    In my Wilson Commander 9mm the Penetrators spit the primers out almost as far as the empty casings go.
    Out of 11 rounds shot, 9 of them blew out the primers.

    I'm guessing a tighter chamber and/or shorter lead is squeezing every last PSI out of them to the point of over pressure.

    I'll save the +P+ Underwood for my Glocks, blowing primers 90% of the time isn't worth messing around with.
    I fired half a box of Underwood 10mm loads and realized it had self-depriming brass. Bug not a feature?

    Either way I pulled down the other 10 rounds and decided to never do that again.
    I was into 10mm Auto before it sold out and went mainstream, but these days I'm here for the revolver and epidemiology information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lester Polfus View Post
    I fired half a box of Underwood 10mm loads and realized it had self-depriming brass. Bug not a feature?

    Either way I pulled down the other 10 rounds and decided to never do that again.
    In what gun?
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    Won’t loose primers typically happen with light charges? Heavy charges will typically flatten the primers against the breech face right? I would think that would further seat the primer, not wrench it loose?

    Sounds like DoubleTap needs to check their primer pockets with a go-no go gauge and maybe change primer sources. We know not all primers are created equal (in size or quality).

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    Overpressure loads can vent through the primer pocket, deform it, and blow it out. I've never had that happen in a pistol though.

    I'd want to know why the Wilson does this, while a Glock doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    In what gun?
    Glock 20. Stock everything but the sights and the skateboard tape.

    Not to be a dick*, but "what gun" shouldn't matter. Ammo should not de-prime upon firing if it is fired in a properly made firearm in good repair.

    (*Does starting a sentence with "not to be a dick" lessen or increase the chance you'll be perceived as a dick? Is it like talking to your wife and starting a sentence with "Now, don't get mad but...")
    I was into 10mm Auto before it sold out and went mainstream, but these days I'm here for the revolver and epidemiology information.

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    Lehigh Defense: Xtreme Penetrator Ammunition

    @Lester Polfus , agreed. And not (too) dickish. Pushing the limits of a caliber is risky, and a lot of the companies doing it don’t seem to care as long as people are buying.
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