What Go-To Gun/Guns do you keep close when you sleep?

[Nephrology]

Gen 3 Glock 19 with TLR-1, condition 1 in a kydex holster. 15 rounds of 124 gr +P Speer Gold dots, a 17rd spare mag of the same + handheld light next to it. My fall/winter EDC gun and holster.

Sometimes I'll leave my S&W 442 with CT laser grips next to it too, usually when that's what I've been carrying all day (i.e. summertime). No specific reason beyond that I've been wearing it all day, so why not.

My safe is usually open (in bedroom closet) and it has a condition 3 12ga 870 hanging out in there but I don't have much instruction in using one so it's not a gun I plan on relying on.

[johnnyyukon]

Oh, call me crazy, but I also keep a pair of handcuffs.

I probably wouldn't, but my buddy had a guy break-in and he was ready with his P226(?) but he said he basically pointed the gun at him until the cops arrived.

[S Jenks]

Oh, call me crazy, but I also keep a pair of handcuffs.

I probably wouldn't, but my buddy had a guy break-in and he was ready with his P226(?) but he said he basically pointed the gun at him until the cops arrived.

No idea if you're in LE/security or not, but I'd recommend some training on felony arrest techniques if that's your plan.

Personally, if someone breaks into my place they either get shot and carried out or flee and become the on-duty guys' problem. Prone handcuffing a likely high or altered mental status subject, in the dark and without backup when I'm not wearing a vest and belt full of toys gives me the chills. It's been done but only as a last resort.

When we are alone, catch someone and prone them out at gunpoint, there is a very specific protocol to follow when it come to securing the suspect.

Check out Force Science's study on reaction times pertaining to a proned-out suspect accessing, drawing and firing a pistol.

[RevolverRob]

Well, after months of no gun - my new safe is occupied with a GP100 with Gold Dots and a 642 with Remington +P LHPs. And that makes me sleep better at night now.

-Rob

[Chuck Haggard]

Oh, call me crazy, but I also keep a pair of handcuffs.

I probably wouldn't, but my buddy had a guy break-in and he was ready with his P226(?) but he said he basically pointed the gun at him until the cops arrived.

Handcuffing without back-up is one of the single most dangerous things you can possibly do. I'm not for it, and I've got a metric shitton of time as a street cop, DT instructor, and doing MMA

[LSP552]

Handcuffing without back-up is one of the single most dangerous things you can possibly do. I'm not for it, and I've got a metric shitton of time as a street cop, DT instructor, and doing MMA

Completely agree. And the fight tends to start once you get the 1st cuff on.

[johnnyyukon]

Handcuffing without back-up is one of the single most dangerous things you can possibly do. I'm not for it, and I've got a metric shitton of time as a street cop, DT instructor, and doing MMA

Ok, I'm just a regular dude (I do go to the range a LOT and study. Read several pieces of literature and watched several DVDs recommended on this forum). But I wouldn't presume to try and pin a guy down that's on god knows what, with god knows what motives/possible weapons/etc. Even with my 2 years of on and off MMA training myself, it's really rather irrelevant in this particular situation, with no back up and at least one gun in the mix.

BUT what if you kind of tossed the handcuffs to him, told him to cuff himself or to something sturdy? Maybe the perp complies, maybe not, maybe I don't have time to grab them. I guess I just got them "in case."

Never experienced a break-in, I don't see myself shooting someone unless there seems an imminent threat to me or anyone in my home. I'd really rather live my entire life without killing anyone if possible.

Or perhaps just do what my friend did, keep a good distance if there's no back up (his pregnant wife was in the other room) handcuffs or not. He's a regular dude too, but I think he handled it the best he could. Was wild listening to the story.

Check out Force Science's study on reaction times pertaining to a proned-out suspect accessing, drawing and firing a pistol.

oh, and this seems a good start.

[Beat Trash]

Handcuffing without back-up is one of the single most dangerous things you can possibly do. I'm not for it, and I've got a metric shitton of time as a street cop, DT instructor, and doing MMA

Completely agree. And the fight tends to start once you get the 1st cuff on.

Listen to these guys. Almost every struggle and resulting use of force I have been involved in during my career started with the first cuff going, "click".

Anyone that you put at gunpoint should involve a contact person and a cover person involved in placing the suspect in custody, at a minimum.

Tossing a person a set of cuffs, you just gave them an impact weapon.

I would strongly suggest holding a suspect at gunpoint and waiting for LE to arrive. I also would recommend having a phone close at hand. Keep dispatch on the line while you have the suspect at gunpoint. Even if you have to set the phone down next to you.

[RevolverRob]

Years ago, I had a book by Chuck Taylor called Combat Handguns or something. Anyways he described a nice proceedure for holding someone at gun point while waiting for backup.

The general presumption is they start standing. Have the perp interlace their fingers and place their hands palm down on top of their head. Have them get on their knees, then cross their ankles, then sit on their crossed feet. These minimizes their movement speed and response speed and keeps hands up high, and keeps you away from them.

[johnnyyukon]

Listen to these guys. Almost every struggle and resulting use of force I have been involved in during my career started with the first cuff going, "click".

Anyone that you put at gunpoint should involve a contact person and a cover person involved in placing the suspect in custody, at a minimum.

Tossing a person a set of cuffs, you just gave them an impact weapon.

I would strongly suggest holding a suspect at gunpoint and waiting for LE to arrive. I also would recommend having a phone close at hand. Keep dispatch on the line while you have the suspect at gunpoint. Even if you have to set the phone down next to you.

An impact weapon. You guys think so much differently, and for good reason due to your experience. Always a learning experience. Great tips.