So let me get this straight...you're saying you sometimes "heel" (I had to Google this because I'd never heard of it), while shooting groups at distance. Some days your hold puts shots in the black and some days it doesn't. Have you tried a different backstrap? If you're truly "heeling" like you say you are, maybe you need a larger or smaller one. What's on the gun now?Originally Posted by SsevenN
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I'm not sure I even understand how someone heels a gun, but I have made mistakes that pushed me away from center consistently.
Sometimes I catch the too light grip hitting high and correct it. Sometimes an errant shot is a mystery. Grip and trigger.
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One of the most common ways is not isolating the trigger press and squeezing with the entire hand. For me, it creeps up shooting with my off-hand. Trigger and grip......about all we really need to remember for most shooting.
When doing ultra slowfire and messing with ball & dummy yes, I can observe the gun push up slightly on a dummy round. But as stated, I have no consistency with it day to day and frankly I've been focused lately on holding more aggressively and guaranteeing I fight back on the gun (like I would do for any other kind of shooting).
Standard grip backstrap, I've messed with the large ones, seems like standard is the right size for my mits, who knows though.
I need to get to a good class and have someone observe this shit IRL I think.
Last edited by SsevenN; 04-26-2017 at 07:38 AM.
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I just had a realization - I haven't observed the heeling since 2-3 months ago on my old FNS guns, I might be falsely equating things here. I think I need to stop worrying about it and just hold where I need to hold.
Ignore my ramblings, the more I try to explain the more confusing I'm making things, let's just chalk this up to facile deductive observational work and move on, sorry everybody.
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Spring time in Alaska. Warming up the 10mm
Shot some 25Y groups today with my PX4 CC. I've got my work cut out for me with this thing. Not tooting my own horn but I can almost always shoot at least a 90 cold with my Brig Tac, no matter what ammo I feed it. My 10 shot groups averaged in the mid 80s. I shot a 91 once. It seemed to favor the Speer 115 over the Speer 124 and 147. Had some interesting horizontal stringing with the 124 stuff while using the same hold as the 115 and 147. I'm still learning my hold with these sights so next trip should go better. Shooting at a moderate pace, a shot every 2-3 seconds. Short term goal is to clear a 90 in under 30 seconds from the holster. The short barrel length and sight radius certainly highlight every flaw in sight alignment and trigger control.
Last edited by MSparks909; 04-26-2017 at 03:22 PM.
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I'm not much of a slow shooter on 25 yds. I just try to shoot like I do anything else. Acceptable sight picture, press, reset during recoil (something I'm working hard on), then press when the sights settle.
Last 5 shots of the day. Freestyle from high ready around 5-8 seconds.
46/50, right?
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Looks that way to me. Nice going!I'm not much of a slow shooter on 25 yds. I just try to shoot like I do anything else. Acceptable sight picture, press, reset during recoil (something I'm working hard on), then press when the sights settle.
Last 5 shots of the day. Freestyle from high ready around 5-8 seconds.
46/50, right?
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Thanks ASH! Your 25 yds work inspires me.
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