25 yard Bull confirming zero w/ Apex barreled M&P and 124 gr. Speer Lawman.
25 yard Bull confirming zero w/ Apex barreled M&P and 124 gr. Speer Lawman.
I’ve been applying GJM’s “ROTD” observations to my 25-yard 10-round red dot drills recently, and did it again at the range today.
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....shooting-a-PMO
This was cold with my 1 MOA SRO equipped training pistol, a stock HK VP9L-OR, 115 grain S&B ball, on a B8, breaking each shot after the first, as the dot dropped out of recoil into the desired impact zone. I’m able to track the dot through the complete shot cycle.
I think I need to work on my timing, as it seems to be breaking a bit early. But I feel like that’s not a bad balance of speed and accuracy. And, when I run a Bill Drill after doing some of this work, it seems almost trivial to accomplish clean, in times that would have been more challenging to me in the past. It has been a good confidence builder, for sure.
If you’re shooting a dot, I suggest looking at GJM’s post and trying it for yourself.
Originally Posted by Archer1440
The ROTD is controlled by my active recoil management with stance and grip.
I drive it down faster when I need less precision, subsequently I can time the trigger press with less elapsed time.
But the ROTD is set consciously by me depending on the precision demands. Then I’m entrusted with accurately timing the dot “bounce” at the nadir.
Basically I set my body and recoil management as a spring.
I dial the spring rate up or down depending on how fast I think I can see and execute the proper dot bounce timing.
That's how and why the cadence scales at different distances with the same size target. Because the precision requirements and the precision execution is different.
If you kept the same ROTD and cadence at different distances, guess what. Your shot dispersion would just scale out, but that's not what you're going for.
You're looking to "call" your shot dispersion based on your target requirements, which means the precision requirements HAVE to change at different distances, which means your ROTD has to change.
Note how I kept a relatively similar 3-6" vertical shot dispersion by varying the cadence in the second video despite distances ranging from 5 yards to 25 yards.
If I shot to a generic ROTD, the vertical dispersion would be narrower at close ranges and wider at farther ones.
But instead I'm setting the ROTD actively and then trying to hit the dot bounce with different levels of precision if that makes sense.
Can’t decipher where the 10th hole is. First target of the day and I went back to the firing line and counted 10 empty cases.
If it’s that one, it’s a 97-3
Really pleased with the G41 and its accuracy over the years.
Regards.
Owner brought this to me complaining about malfunctions. It was missing the sear decock lever. Pistol would not decock and the magazine safety wasn’t functioning. Went ahead and replaced springs (recoil, mainspring, mag springs, etc) followers, and cleaned it.
Gen3 G17 w/a Swampfox optic mounted atop a Brownells slide/barrel. Gun’s zeroed for 147gr ammo, but I’ve been shooting a lot of 124gr, as it’s been easier to procure. I expect that stuff to print lower, so I’m not unhappy with that group off of 22sec time. It just turns the topmost shot into the flier, instead of the lowest.
Couple of runs at 25 with Boresight Wilson module X5/ACRO and a Chambers PHATWMG-NF.
Really impressive shooting. I have yet to hundo a B8
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