Warren Tactical Glock Front Sight Height

[CQC.45]

Hello,

I posted this on another forum, but wanted to get feedback from the members here as well.


I need some help in choosing a front sight for my G17. I am planning on putting Warren rear on the pistol. I’ve read all of the discussion regarding the two Warren front sight heights (.215 and .245). The general consensus seems to be .215 for 6 o clock hold at 25yds and .245 for POA/POI at 25yrds, though there have been several whose opinions have contradicted this.

I still have a few questions though:

-The difference in stock Glock sights are .256 for rear and .165 for front. This is a .091 difference. The Warren sights have either a .035 or a .005 difference. The G17 shoots POA/POI right now with stock sights. Wouldn’t one want to emulate the stock ratio of front to rear to achieve the same goal or am I missing something?

-If the .245 front sight is set up to shoot POA/POI at 25yrds, will that still be true at 15yds, 10yds, 5yds, etc?

Lastly, I had considered getting the Ameriglo i-dot Pros for the cheaper price, however both the rear and front sight are very wide, which I am sure aid it sight acquisition but may make precise shots more difficult. Can anyone comment?


Thanks in advance for the assistance.

[markp]

Don't know if you will find this helpful or not.
10-8 performance offers a "glock sight in" tool.
Basically an extra tall sight that you sand down until your POA/POI is zeroed at whatever range you decide.
http://www.10-8performance.com/produ...t-In-Tool.html

Once you are satisfied with POI, measure the sight height and order exact (or nearest) dimension from your favorite vendor.

I've used it in the pass and it works as advertised.

[JHC]

That 10-8 sight "trial" is probably a good idea based on my experience with .215 and .245 Warren front sights.

We have two Gen 4 G19s here. One of them with a .215 tall Warren shoots just a couple inches high for POI at 25 yards so a 6:00 hold on a 6" plate works great. But on the other one, crimony, a .215 tall front was printing even 124 grain Blazer a good 8" high at 25 yards and now a .245 tall front has got that gun shooting POA=POI at 25 yards. The .245 on the 1st Gen 4 G19 I mentioned would have it's POI below POA as this same height in fact did on one of our G17s.

So it's not model specific but gun specific. The first Gen 4 G19 I mentioned now sports a .220 tall Ameriglo Hack front with the Warren rear and it is very close to POA=POI at 25 yards. I've seen similiar up/down uniqueness with our G17s too. The 19 swapping is just more fresh in my mind.

I've no idea if any of that helped.

[CQC.45]

That 10-8 sight "trial" is probably a good idea based on my experience with .215 and .245 Warren front sights.

We have two Gen 4 G19s here. One of them with a .215 tall Warren shoots just a couple inches high for POI at 25 yards so a 6:00 hold on a 6" plate works great. But on the other one, crimony, a .215 tall front was printing even 124 grain Blazer a good 8" high at 25 yards and now a .245 tall front has got that gun shooting POA=POI at 25 yards. The .245 on the 1st Gen 4 G19 I mentioned would have it's POI below POA as this same height in fact did on one of our G17s.

So it's not model specific but gun specific. The first Gen 4 G19 I mentioned now sports a .220 tall Ameriglo Hack front with the Warren rear and it is very close to POA=POI at 25 yards. I've seen similiar up/down uniqueness with our G17s too. The 19 swapping is just more fresh in my mind.

I've no idea if any of that helped.

It does, thanks. On another note, how do you like the Hack front (.140 width) with the Warren rear? I was considering this setup if the front/rear sight planets align for me.

[JHC]

It does, thanks. On another note, how do you like the Hack front (.140 width) with the Warren rear? I was considering this setup if the front/rear sight planets align for me.

I am crazy about it. From another thread here: I've not seen much of the high hit problem yet with a Hack front (.220 tall) matched to a Warren Sevigny Carry rear. I've gotten PRs with a G19 at distant precision and gratifying fast hits on low prob 3x5s . . . so far. But I've just finished primary shooting my RTF2 17 to it's 2K test completion so I need to spend more consistent time with the G19 and this front sight to see how it pans out.

It's so wicked fast on other drills - esp those that transition between high prob targets, I'm not clear in my head that I would trade that, plus the aforementioned precision (out to 50 yds) because of half to 3/4 inch misses on a 3x5 shooting as in the FAST. Apart from my recent time using 3x5 cards so much, my aim point is the point of the nose so a hair high does not seem like the end of the world vis a vis so many other things I like about it.

[Sherman A. House DDS]

Thanks for posting this. I just got a 17L that needs sights.

[CQC.45]

If I found a front sight height which shot POA/POI at 25yrs, would it also shoot POA/POI at 15, 10, and 5yrds with 147gr 9mm? Thanks.

[JHC]

If I found a front sight height which shot POA/POI at 25yrs, would it also shoot POA/POI at 15, 10, and 5yrds with 147gr 9mm? Thanks.

IME yes, closer than you could tell most likely.

[NGCSUGrad09]

I hate to say it but.... it depends.

The intention of two heights was for a 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock hold at 25 yards. In the vast majority of Warren sights I've put on, the .215 height is for 6 o'clock while the .245 height is for 12 o'clock.

That being said, I have an older 34 that needs a .215 for POA=POI at 25 yards. By default I get the .245 height and change it if required.

[JHC]

I hate to say it but.... it depends.

The intention of two heights was for a 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock hold at 25 yards. In the vast majority of Warren sights I've put on, the .215 height is for 6 o'clock while the .245 height is for 12 o'clock.

That being said, I have an older 34 that needs a .215 for POA=POI at 25 yards. By default I get the .245 height and change it if required.

Could you clarify a 12:00 hold? You mean the intent was you hold at the 12:00 of a bullseye for it to hit center x bullseye (under/behind your front sight)? Why would such a sight exist?