gtmtnbiker98, David ; I actually use 3x5 cards and paper plates quite a bit for poor man's F.A.S.T. targets, walk back drills, etc.. Our last qualifications were pretty easy after organized practice of the PT drills and dry firing (perfect scores with a G35 and the P30). I appreciate the feedback (thanks Todd). You guys have heard of a Gym Rat? This forum and pistol-training have turned me into a Range Rat.