VA Lawmakers .... doing a good job

[frozentundra]

Getting a gun from family or friends falls under the definition of a private transfer. Also are you saying you agree with the anti gun state that a firearm in the home is more likely to harm you than someone else since all statistics are correct right? I don't need data I have real life experience.
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According to what you linked if you add up flee markets, gun shows, and family or friends. Buying from friends or family is a private transfer. The number goes up to 41.3% of all guns in criminals hands through private transfers.
Pat

Pat

The family or friends are committing a felony in order to provide the felon with a gun. If they are willing to do that, I don't see how disregarding a new background check law would slow them down.
Straw purchases are already illegal. I don't think new legislation would help much.

[jetfire]

I don't need data I have real life experience.

This is why you're so frequently wrong about stuff, apparently.

[Alaskapopo]

The family or friends are committing a felony in order to provide the felon with a gun. If they are willing to do that, I don't see how disregarding a new background check law would slow them down.
Straw purchases are already illegal. I don't think new legislation would help much.

We need to enforce the laws we have but I see background checks as making it harder for criminals to get guns and that is a good thing. Who here thinks felons having easy access to firearms is a good thing? I bet no one does but that is what your saying by opposing background checks. I get that you don't trust the those in power to write a good law regarding background checks. That said a good law could be passed that protects gun owners and makes it harder for felons to purchase guns through private party sales.
Pat

[TCinVA]

We need to enforce the laws we have but I see background checks as making it harder for criminals to get guns and that is a good thing. Who here things felons having easy access to firearms is a good thing? That is what your saying by opposing background checks.
Pat

Perhaps in an alternate universe where everything functions as you decree. In this one I just see people who don't believe that background checks will do spit to stop felons from getting guns.

[frozentundra]

We need to enforce the laws we have but I see background checks as making it harder for criminals to get guns and that is a good thing. Who here thinks felons having easy access to firearms is a good thing? I bet no one does but that is what your saying by opposing background checks. I get that you don't trust the those in power to write a good law regarding background checks. That said a good law could be passed that protects gun owners and makes it harder for felons to purchase guns through private party sales.
Pat

I think that background checks are working just fine. I don't think they should be messed with.

[Alaskapopo]

I think that background checks are working just fine. I don't think they should be messed with.

They don't cover a huge percentage of the guns bought and sold. I am not sure of the exact percentage of new vs used guns sold. But I can tell you the used gun market is large where I am at.
Pat

[Alaskapopo]

Perhaps in an alternate universe where everything functions as you decree. In this one I just see people who don't believe that background checks will do spit to stop felons from getting guns.

Or perhaps a universe where people use common sense reason vs emotions like fear.
Pat

[frozentundra]

They don't cover a huge percentage of the guns bought and sold. I am not sure of the exact percentage of new vs used guns sold. But I can tell you the used gun market is large where I am at.
Pat

Background checks through an FFL dealer work. There is no way to regulate the private transfers. I just see additional checks as more red tape for law abiding people, while providing criminals with another law to ignore. Just my honest opinion.

[Alaskapopo]

Background checks through an FFL dealer work. There is no way to regulate the private transfers. I just see additional checks as more red tape for law abiding people, while providing criminals with another law to ignore. Just my honest opinion.

A simple way would be to require all gun sales go through an FFL dealer. Yes its a bit more red tape but not overly difficult or costly. I do it now for all the guns I sale because I don't want to arm some scumbag because I didn't know he was a felon. Frankly the only valid argument I can see against not wanting background checks on private sales is the fear that it will be turned into a registration scheme.
Pat

[jetfire]

A simple way would be to require all gun sales go through an FFL dealer. Yes its a bit more red tape but not overly difficult or costly. I do it now for all the guns I sale because I don't want to arm some scumbag because I didn't know he was a felon. Frankly the only valid argument I can see against not wanting background checks on private sales is the fear that it will be turned into a registration scheme.
Pat

Were you even paying attention to the background check bill that was introduced last year?