The value of training.

[Marty Hayes]

Thought I would share this piece I just wrote for the Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network E-journal. It seems relevant to this forum.

Marty

http://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/...-december-2013

[GardoneVT]

Thought I would share this piece I just wrote for the Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network E-journal. It seems relevant to this forum.

Marty

http://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/...-december-2013

A good link , thanks.

As Jeff Cooper observed years and years ago, the key is mindset.If someone's a trained, educated shooter, their mindset will be much better then the unprepared when theres a bump at three AM. With competence comes confidence, and confidence ensures no legally questionable decisions happen at the brink.

[Casual Friday]

A good link , thanks.

As Jeff Cooper observed years and years ago, the key is mindset.If someone's a trained, educated shooter, their mindset will be much better then the unprepared when theres a bump at three AM. With competence comes confidence, and confidence ensures no legally questionable decisions happen at the brink.

That last part, did you make that up on a whim or do you really believe that?

[Mitchell, Esq.]

And here I was assuming that a firm understanding of use of force rules combined with scenario training that forced one to apply those rules in unfamiliar situations under compressed time conditions and stress prevented legally questionable actions "at the brink"...

The less you are thinking about what to do to handle the tactical/skills portion of the situation, the more you can apply attention to the situation itself - you still need to know what is and is not permitted, and how to apply that info to the situation at hand.

Confidence isn't what gets you through. Competence is what does it.

[GardoneVT]

And here I was assuming that a firm understanding of use of force rules combined with scenario training that forced one to apply those rules in unfamiliar situations under compressed time conditions and stress prevented legally questionable actions "at the brink"...

The less you are thinking about what to do to handle the tactical/skills portion of the situation, the more you can apply attention to the situation itself - you still need to know what is and is not permitted, and how to apply that info to the situation at hand.

Confidence isn't what gets you through. Competence is what does it.

Except when Bad Things Happen, there isn't much time for any organized thought about legality.Either you mentally are prepared for the situation via advanced, previous training-or you're not. The confidence stems from competence-you cannot have one without the other.

[Tamara]

...confidence ensures no legally questionable decisions happen at the brink.

[TR675]

Except when Bad Things Happen, there isn't much time for any organized thought about legality.Either you mentally are prepared for the situation via advanced, previous training-or you're not. The confidence stems from competence-you cannot have one without the other.

nyeti has some posts on this topic that might give you a different perspective from someone who has spent a lot of time being there and doing that.

[Casual Friday]

The confidence stems from competence-you cannot have one without the other.

I disagree. Look at the number of gun owners who shoot 100 rounds a year and are "confident" that they are prepared and well trained. Confidence can be just another lie that we convince ourselves is real.

[NETim]

I disagree. Look at the number of gun owners who shoot 100 rounds a year and are "confident" that they are prepared and well trained. Confidence can be just another lie that we convince ourselves is real.

Ignorance is bliss as they say.

The more I shoot, the more I train, the more I realize I need to improve.

[GardoneVT]

I disagree. Look at the number of gun owners who shoot 100 rounds a year and are "confident" that they are prepared and well trained. Confidence can be just another lie that we convince ourselves is real.

Thats called good ol fashioned hubris.

100 rounds a year rounds down to zero, AFAIC .Confidence in real world, measurable performance under stress is a very different thing from self delusion.