Page 311 of 675 FirstFirst ... 211261301309310311312313321361411 ... LastLast
Results 3,101 to 3,110 of 6747

Thread: Beretta 1301 Tactical

  1. #3101
    Site Supporter NPV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    CT
    Quote Originally Posted by GearFondler View Post
    A great illustration of why everyone should pattern their own shotgun and not just with one shot at each distance.
    The Crit Defense at 25yds had 1 round put 4 pellets in the heart and 1 in the lung, but the other round entirely missed COM and maybe 2 in the lung.
    Yup, needless to say I will not be buying anymore of it. I figured, based on reports here, performance would be sub-par but gave it a shot anyway. Not pictured was Hornady #4 with the versatite wad, was even worse past 15 yards.
    Last edited by NPV; 01-11-2020 at 09:15 PM.

  2. #3102
    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyDuty View Post
    Yes, that's the one.

  3. #3103
    Murder Machine, Harmless Fuzzball TCinVA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Virginia
    Quote Originally Posted by NPV View Post
    Just a data point for those interested. Federal FC 9 pellet and Hornady Critical Defense patterns. I’m gonna have to try some 8 pellet to see if I can get some tighter patterns.

    Attachment 47077
    Note what you are seeing there: 8 pellets close together with a 9th pellet way off by itself. The 9 pellet arrangement of 00 buckshot generally causes one pellet out of the 9 to be more deformed than the rest, which usually results in it flying considerably different than the other 8 pellets in the load. This is often referred to as the 9th pellet flyer, and it's a thing even with FFC.

    The 8 pellet FC load through your gun will likely give you a pattern about the size you would get if you cut that wide 9th flyer out of the picture all together.

    I've not found the Hornady loads with the Versa-Tite wads to pattern as well as FFC does. It's the same wad design but 9 out of 10 guns seem to run the Federal stuff better.
    3/15/2016

  4. #3104
    Murder Machine, Harmless Fuzzball TCinVA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Virginia
    Quote Originally Posted by NPV View Post
    Yup, needless to say I will not be buying anymore of it. I figured, based on reports here, performance would be sub-par but gave it a shot anyway. Not pictured was Hornady #4 with the versatite wad, was even worse past 15 yards.
    I suspect that even with the FC/Versa-Tite wad with that many pellets slamming into one another the billiard ball effect is just too great to overcome.

    I suspect that's why we haven't seen any more #1 FFC on the market and Federal has instead developed a split shot load made of 9 projectiles that split in half inside tissue.
    3/15/2016

  5. #3105
    Site Supporter NPV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    CT
    Quote Originally Posted by TCinVA View Post
    I suspect that even with the FC/Versa-Tite wad with that many pellets slamming into one another the billiard ball effect is just too great to overcome.

    I suspect that's why we haven't seen any more #1 FFC on the market and Federal has instead developed a split shot load made of 9 projectiles that split in half inside tissue.
    I agree, I live in a 2 family house so I was looking for something that might reduce the chances of over penetration. Granted the longest shot inside would be 13-15 yards but I still want a tighter pattern.

  6. #3106
    Site Supporter vaspence's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Richmond VA
    I took my Gen 1 1301 (bought used) to the range with me today to shoot it for the first time. All shots were fired freestyle with factory sights (no red dot).

    2 3/4" 9 pellet 00 Fed FFC 7yds, 10yds, 15yds, 25yds

    Name:  FFC 9P 7 yds.jpg
Views: 1253
Size:  33.9 KB. Name:  FFC 9p 10yds.jpg
Views: 1271
Size:  26.7 KB Name:  FFC 9p 15 yds.jpg
Views: 1261
Size:  64.6 KB Name:  FFC 9p 25 yds.jpg
Views: 1260
Size:  51.6 KB

    2 3/4" Fed Truball Slug 2 headshots at 25 yds

    Name:  Fed Truball 25yds.jpg
Views: 1250
Size:  29.2 KB

    3" 12 pellet 00 Fed FFC at 7yds, 15yds, 25yds
    Name:  Fed 3%22 FFC 00 7yds.jpg
Views: 1265
Size:  39.3 KB Name:  Fed 3%22 FFC 00 15 yds.jpg
Views: 1264
Size:  34.2 KB Name:  Fed 3%22 FFC 00 25yds.jpg
Views: 1283
Size:  54.0 KB

    2 3/4" Hornady Critical Defense 7yds, 10yds, 15yds, 25yds (7 & 10 on 1 target, 15 & 25 on one target)

    Name:  Hornady 00 7yds.jpg
Views: 1244
Size:  35.8 KB Name:  Hornady 00 10yds.jpg
Views: 1238
Size:  43.9 KB Name:  Hornady 00 15yds.jpg
Views: 1246
Size:  33.4 KB Name:  Hornady 00 25 yds.jpg
Views: 1254
Size:  59.6 KB

  7. #3107
    Site Supporter
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Seminole Texas
    What choke is in the 1301?

  8. #3108
    Member GearFondler's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Southeast Louisiana
    Quote Originally Posted by fixer View Post
    What choke is in the 1301?
    Gen1, none
    Gen2, Cylinder Bore

  9. #3109
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2019
    Location
    San Diego, CA

    Sight Stats

    Thanks to help from Adam at Aridus Industries, I’ve been doing a little 1301 sight analysis, being dissatisfied with the OEM system. I’m still wondering why so many manufacturers sell a Picatinny rail set up in front of a ghost ring sight, when co-witness is impossible (AFAIK) with available red dots mounted to the rail. I suppose you could have a quick release mount, but those have their own set of issues. Anyway, here goes:

    From the OEM starting point we have, for those such as myself with a penchant for light weight to their defensive weaponry, the stock configuration. And to me, either the ghost ring or the Picatinny rail with attached red dot are usable, not both simultaneously.

    Name:  B42290C7-CF15-4113-9D81-EB721059E372.jpg
Views: 1549
Size:  51.2 KB

    Next up, the Aridus RMR CROM with a Holosun 507C in place of the equal footprint RMR (I like the circle feature on the Holosun sights). Notice not much of an increase in weight over the stock sight AND we gain a full co-witness and less extraneous “stuff” surrounding the ghost ring.

    Name:  6A43F8AB-9CA8-42E3-80A6-FF61A9BB06E2.jpg
Views: 1462
Size:  45.8 KB

    Comparing OEM with the Aridus RMR and Aimpoint CROM’s, you can see what’s extraneous and what’s not.

    Name:  84389824-AD67-41D6-B875-7367E12EFD4D.jpg
Views: 1685
Size:  29.6 KB

    Off tracking a bit, I had considered a Viridian light/laser combo. I’m getting more skeptical of its ability to be used. Plus it weighs 4 ounces alone.

    Name:  3A12E69D-4F67-4B4F-BD20-B8B08D770D55.jpg
Views: 1452
Size:  78.9 KB

    Current configuration with Holosun 507C. Although it has a 32 MOA outside ring, opposed to the 65 MOA ring of the larger 503, and I would prefer the larger ring, it has too many other redeeming qualities to dismiss.

    Name:  458CFB44-FB02-4075-A8B5-AFD907431E9A.jpg
Views: 2481
Size:  48.3 KB

    Such as a much cleaner view. And remember the lighter weight. Oh, and a perfect co-witness. The 503 has its battery compartment below the sight as compared to the Holosun 403’s and the Aimpoints which have the battery mounted on the right side of the sight. Thus, the 503 sits just enough higher to allow a co-witness, but just barely.

    Name:  32AB3A55-3AAC-4D9F-8CC3-569E312E5EB8.jpg
Views: 1457
Size:  18.1 KB

    The weight of the 503 on the Aimpoint CROM.

    Name:  A538A6FE-E114-47EB-9520-9A0CFD98E599.jpg
Views: 1441
Size:  34.1 KB

    The 507C.

    Name:  660A8385-E624-4D20-9DE3-682D660E5B34.jpg
Views: 1558
Size:  20.8 KB

    The 503C. Notice the battery compartment below the sight barrel.

    Name:  EF00C18B-EF38-42F2-B58A-64597015DB59.jpg
Views: 1491
Size:  22.7 KB

  10. #3110
    Member That Guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    overseas
    A minor correction to a very informative post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyboytim View Post
    The 503 has its battery compartment below the sight as compared to the Holosun 403’s
    Actually, no. The 500 series has the option of a circle-dot reticle, while the 400 series has only a dot. Where the battery compartment is, is determined by the letter following the number. B and C models have the battery tray.

    For further information on Holosun model nomenclature, I found this website very useful: https://optics-info.com/holosun-symb...m-r5-g5-u-t-l/

    (Yes, Holosun's model labeling system is confusing and poorly explained. Which led me to do some googling and why I had the page linked above bookmarked.)

User Tag List

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •