At the time, those were the problem followers. Look back in this thread and you will see the problem and fix.Originally Posted by RancidSumo
At the time, those were the problem followers. Look back in this thread and you will see the problem and fix.
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Circling back to this in case anyone was curious…
I finally added some dummy 12ga rounds to a Midway order so I could try this out.
Kind of funky, but it is possible to Ghost load the a300. Trick seems to be to pul, the bolt back just far enough, but not so far that the lifter snaps up, and then just kind of wedge the shell down in there.
The dummy rounds are 2.75” rounds. Not that I’d want to, but I don’t see getting a 3” shell shoved down in there on this gun. I see that one of the features advertised on the new a300 Ultimata is a larger ejection port, so perhaps the 1301 also has a larger port than my a300.
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When I set the gun up for a full magazine and a shell still on the lifter, I retract the bolt fully, put the shell in, let the bolt go forward slightly and then press the shell down. That slides it back out from under the extractor and the bolt position allows you to move the lifter down easily.
I've never seen this practice cause a stoppage with the 1301, but it's still not something I recommend doing on a shotgun stored for home defense. YMMV.
3/15/2016
Why do you not recommend it? That’s how I have mine set up currently. If there are functional/reliability issues, I definitely want to know. I’ve tried it live fire and dry with two different types of dummy shells and haven’t experienced any problems with the shell on the lifter feeding and chambering or issues with the next shell being placed on the lifter after the trigger is pulled.
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Generally speaking keeping the magazine spring completely compressed leads to a shorter service life for that spring. Not a big deal if you change it regularly, but if it's getting toward the "iffy" part of the range while you are depending on the gun for defense, possibly a concern.
As I've said, I haven't seen a functional issue with this when it's done properly. "When it's done properly" being the operative part, there. It's a complicated manipulation and if gotten wrong could make getting the gun into action more difficult.
Given the nature of the typical defensive use of a shotgun indoors, I don't think the extra faff is worth it for the result. But that's just my opinion.
3/15/2016
Do you recommend fixing by trimming the spring or by replacing the follower with the Carrier Comp follower? (I think I found the right discussion, back around page 325.)
I changed the follower and it solved the problem.
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Easy enough - thanks. Got one ordered.
Good to know. Do you recommend loading the tube fully and then hitting the shell release to get one shell onto the loader in order to save wear on the spring?
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Is this where the consensus is back to in the gun world? "compression wears out springs" vs "compression/expansion repeated wears out springs"?
I've been in the latter camp for a decade or two now...
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