None. I have BCM panels installed.
As to aridus being a one man shop, I get it. I’ve worked in places that are backed up to hell. I’m backed up 3-4 months on my current work with more coming in. However his attitude torwards customers as shown on his facebook is less than professional. That seems to be the norm in a lot of the firearms industry though.
I’m not saying not to buy his products. They’re great. It’s just in this instance he lost a sale (not that it matters for his business).
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From watching too much Forgotten Weapons on YouTube, I've discovered that many firearm manufacturers who've won a particular large contract would license and subcontract to a manufacturer who had the capacity to meet the demand using their specs. It's strange to me that the owner has purchased more machines in an attempt to meet scale and remain a "one man shop" rather than taking the licensing approach WHILE ramping up his own manufacturing capacity.
I'm likely going to purchase the Briley handguard, but I'd like to get my hands on the Aridus red dot mount and stock adapter down the road. It's seriously not a priority for me right now. I'm squarely in the I'll buy it next year crowd. I'm just thankful that Aridus and his products exist while at the same time confused about why better moves haven't been made to scale. Maybe a trip to Shark Tank is in order.
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A little bit of a thread derail here but there are benefits to going both ways. Contracting out comes with a huge set of risks and other logistical nightmares. Look at the saga of “the gadget” to see what contracting out involves.
The owner of aridus clearly cares about the quality of his products and has chosen to keep everything as “in house” as possible.
Being at his size, his business model really should be closer to that of a custom shop than a retail operation, for now. But it’s his business to run as he thinks best both financially and reputation-wise, and I wish him the best.
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The Briley handguard looks great! I'd have bought one already if it was so expensive. Not saying it's not worth it but it's a lot of extra on top of a shotgun that was not cheap to begin with. IMO it's a better option than the Zhukov version as it offers more mounting options for stuff light lights and pressure switches.
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I had a chance to shoot the 1301T at a friend's house for the first time since changing the charging handle and installing the Briley extended IC choke. Shooting the same Turkish Spartan brand ammo and Winchester "Mil-spec" 00 12GA ammo it cycled just fine. I expected it would but I like to confirm these things.
My friend has some various bird loads that I've never shot through the 1301 and HOLY COW those things recoiled way more than any of the 12GA 00 buck. I looked at the shells and they were 2 3/4, dark red, and there was a bird on the shell (maybe Federal). He no longer had the ammo box to confirm exactly what they were. I suspect they were steel shot. I was curious if any of you have had similar experience with shooting bird shot? My expectation was that bird shot would be light recoiling.
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Shot loads can be everything from mouse fart loads intended to make a day of busting clays comfortable to fire-breathing screamers designed to hit geese flying high over empty fields or kill turkeys at distances considered well past typical shotgun range. You have to determine what sort of shot you are dealing with. The simple method is to examine payload weight and either the powder charge or velocity. For example:
https://www.federalpremium.com/shots...-GMT113+8.html
This Federal gold medal load intended for shooting sporting clays shoots a 1 ounce payload of #8 shot at 1180 FPS. This would be an exceptionally mild shot load mainly intended for use in break-action shotguns.
https://www.federalpremium.com/shots...PBIX137+3.html
This is a 1 3/8 oz. #3 shot payload at 1450 FPS. This would be a pretty stout load meant to reach out and get birds flying high.
If you look at the weight of the payload and the velocity, you get a good idea of what the recoil will be like. 1 ounce is roughly standard payload for a 12 gauge. 1200-1300 FPS is about standard velocity.
A 7/8 ounce payload at 1,300 FPS will be a mild load.
A 1 ounce load at 1,100 will be a mild load.
A 1 ounce load at 1,600 FPS is about maximum 2 3/4" payload and will be stout.
A 1 1/8 ounce load at 1,200-1,300 will be pretty stout.
A 1 3/8 ounce load at 1,450-1,500 FPS will be magnum territory payload and will be stout.
Etc.
While it's not a formal formula, you can think of it in terms of
Payload x Velocity = Felt Recoil
An ounce of lead being pushed at 1,100 FPS is using less powder than the same ounce of lead being pushed at 1,300 FPS. Meaning the equal and opposite reaction at the other end will be lesser, too.
3/15/2016