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Thread: Beretta 1301 Tactical

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    What choke is in the 1301?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixer View Post
    What choke is in the 1301?
    Gen1, none
    Gen2, Cylinder Bore

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    Thanks to help from Adam at Aridus Industries, I’ve been doing a little 1301 sight analysis, being dissatisfied with the OEM system. I’m still wondering why so many manufacturers sell a Picatinny rail set up in front of a ghost ring sight, when co-witness is impossible (AFAIK) with available red dots mounted to the rail. I suppose you could have a quick release mount, but those have their own set of issues. Anyway, here goes:

    From the OEM starting point we have, for those such as myself with a penchant for light weight to their defensive weaponry, the stock configuration. And to me, either the ghost ring or the Picatinny rail with attached red dot are usable, not both simultaneously.

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    Next up, the Aridus RMR CROM with a Holosun 507C in place of the equal footprint RMR (I like the circle feature on the Holosun sights). Notice not much of an increase in weight over the stock sight AND we gain a full co-witness and less extraneous “stuff” surrounding the ghost ring.

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    Comparing OEM with the Aridus RMR and Aimpoint CROM’s, you can see what’s extraneous and what’s not.

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    Off tracking a bit, I had considered a Viridian light/laser combo. I’m getting more skeptical of its ability to be used. Plus it weighs 4 ounces alone.

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    Current configuration with Holosun 507C. Although it has a 32 MOA outside ring, opposed to the 65 MOA ring of the larger 503, and I would prefer the larger ring, it has too many other redeeming qualities to dismiss.

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    Such as a much cleaner view. And remember the lighter weight. Oh, and a perfect co-witness. The 503 has its battery compartment below the sight as compared to the Holosun 403’s and the Aimpoints which have the battery mounted on the right side of the sight. Thus, the 503 sits just enough higher to allow a co-witness, but just barely.

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    The weight of the 503 on the Aimpoint CROM.

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    The 507C.

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    The 503C. Notice the battery compartment below the sight barrel.

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    A minor correction to a very informative post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyboytim View Post
    The 503 has its battery compartment below the sight as compared to the Holosun 403’s
    Actually, no. The 500 series has the option of a circle-dot reticle, while the 400 series has only a dot. Where the battery compartment is, is determined by the letter following the number. B and C models have the battery tray.

    For further information on Holosun model nomenclature, I found this website very useful: https://optics-info.com/holosun-symb...m-r5-g5-u-t-l/

    (Yes, Holosun's model labeling system is confusing and poorly explained. Which led me to do some googling and why I had the page linked above bookmarked.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by That Guy View Post
    A minor correction to a very informative post:
    Thanks TG... 👍 I was being as lazy as I was uninformed. I have bookmarked that excellent site on the Holosun numeric codes. And sure as shootin’...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyboytim View Post
    From the OEM starting point we have, for those such as myself with a penchant for light weight to their defensive weaponry, the stock configuration. And to me, either the ghost ring or the Picatinny rail with attached red dot are usable, not both simultaneously.

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    Just to note, Beretta does sell an aluminum version of that rail chunk, as a lowest-cost threshold for upgrading what comes on the gun.

    I posted earlier in the thread about finding properly made screws. I've witnessed the improperly-made screws from Beretta that held the plastic rail onto the gun snap their heads off due to recoil.
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    At OJ... Mine is the 2nd version of the 1301. Isn’t it the aluminum rail??? I thought the polymer rail was on the 1st iteration.
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    May be. If yours is aluminum, then it must be. I have a gen 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    May be. If yours is aluminum, then it must be. I have a gen 1.
    It is... 🤓👍

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    @Flyboytim, do a little patterning with the 32 MOA circle and FFC at various distances and you may find that the 32 MOA circle actually does a pretty killer job of holding the size of the pattern within it. In other words, you might find that the circle size on the holosun gives you an effective boundary for where your pellets are going to go, allowing a very quick reference on whether or not you can keep all your pellets on the particular target you're trying to shoot.

    I'd be interested to hear what you find on that.
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