Last edited by UNK; 10-20-2018 at 01:15 PM.
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The lunatics are running the asylum
I bought the pistol grip stock LE only version from a dealer about a month ago. Has all the Gen 2 features minus the barrel with interchangeable chokes. When I asked Beretta customer service why their website listed the barrel had a choke of OCHP, they said the LE version only comes in cylinder bore. They said their website had OCHP listed as a choke because that's the diameter bore they make the barrel as opposed to the Mobilchoke diameter. I didn't quite understand the point seeing as the LE version has Gen 2 everything except the barrel and it's listed on their site with a choke.
The LE SKU DOES have a choke, but it is a fixed C. BDT chose to eliminate removable choke tubes from the LE SKU as agencies will generally not go with removable chokes and the LE SKU is intended only for LEA/LEOs. OCHP refers to the Optima Choke HP barrel geometry, which is Backbored as with removable OBHP guns, but is otherwise a fixed IC choke.
I'll have the website updated to make that more clear.
Commercial SKUs all have removable choke tubes in the Optima High Performance pattern.
For reference:
J131T18C
J131T18G
J131T18M
J131T18F
All of the above are Commercial SKUs and all have all Gen 2 features, including removable choke tubes.
Last edited by e_stern; 10-22-2018 at 09:39 PM.
Used to make pasta, now I make waffles.
Hey, I'm betting you would know this. Was discussed a long time ago in this thread, but I'm not sure it was resolved with any certainty. My understanding is that the LE SKU, because it includes the mag extension kit, would violate 922(r) if it was sold to a non-LE user without the mag extension being removed, or something else done (e.g., Briley trigger group installed) to get the "listed features" count sufficiently low prior to transferring it. And that would be in all territories of the US. It's a very different situation than Vista Outdoors just having a business policy about how it wants distribution to work. Is that the official situation, or am I missing something?
Last edited by OlongJohnson; 10-24-2018 at 05:53 PM.
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Not another dime.
I know you are quite concerned with the 922(r) as it pertains to the magazine extensions and what not, I remember your posts from a few months back - I doubt Eric is going to give you legal advice regarding it -
That being said, when they are in stock, you can buy factory equipped as shown here:
https://www.armsunlimited.com/Berett...-p/j131p18.htm
And unlike Benelli's absolutely asinine "policy" of "Law Enforcement Only" on most pistol grip and/or magazine extension models, I don't see any disclaimer on a normal citizen purchasing the 1301T as linked.
Btw, aren't Benelli and Beretta owned together or in the same company? Feel like I read that somewhere, and I'm thankful for having a Beretta rep on this board and on this thread, so with that being said, please pass my regards to management that as a consumer and potential buyer, it really burns my rear to see on an M2/M4 Tac "LE SALES ONLY" from many online Benelli vendors. I read somewhere and someone can confirm if I'm wrong, that basically Benelli adopted the policy from the '94 AWB and kept it in place, which double burns my rear.
Took my PD's shotgun user class this week, it was a 2 day class. I was the only semi-auto of the 6 of us that actually took it and just about everyone drooled and fondled my 1301 (with all the Aridus pieces). The instructors were worried when they realized they only had low brass #8 Estate shells for manipulation training but the 1301 ran them like a champ. Over the two days we ran about 210 shells total with about 70 of that being slugs on day 2. Part of those slugs were Winchester Ranger Slugs, which were some of the dirtiest rounds I've ever fired. Due to where the spring is and the mlok slots on the Aridus forend my left hand turned black (literally) from them. Was extremely pleased with how my 1301 ran though as thats the most I've put through it in a short period and it was rather dirty after the Rangers and it kept on chugging along.
How hard are these on optics? Also, whats different between the Tactical and the Comp, besides iron sights and barrel?
Last edited by Super77; 10-28-2018 at 06:29 PM.