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  1. Poll: Duty ammo is 124gr +P Speer Gold Dot (once or...

    Duty ammo is 124gr +P Speer Gold Dot (once or twice a year, we shoot the stuff we carry and replace with new stock)

    We mostly shoot 124gr FMJ Speer Lawmen or Federal 124gr FMJ

    However the...
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    Thats crazy! Anyone have any more information??

    Thats crazy! Anyone have any more information??
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    From Denver

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnT2cqL_bkE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFXmW2q8G9U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p52Zw-m3X9U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poi249jLubc
    ...
  4. What!... I didnt know this. I might have to...

    What!... I didnt know this. I might have to figure out a time to attend someday! So cool. I signed up on the website for a schedule. So I look forward to seeing future dates if its still a thing...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdxI_rcWP70

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdxI_rcWP70
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    I noticed a few things, like the chase thru the...

    I noticed a few things, like the chase thru the house. The approach to the door, and opening etc...

    what other specifics??


    I did however thoroughly enjoy this...

    “I’m hit in the chest.”...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvqtGRvNZGE ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvqtGRvNZGE

    Denver
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    Oxnard, CA PD ...

    Oxnard, CA PD

    https://www.tactical-life.com/news/video-oxnard-police-shoots-disturbed-girl-who-pulls-huge-knife/
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    https://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.asp...

    https://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=2&loadNo=0058
  10. Maybe the 14 times with a .223 on a suspect is...

    Maybe the 14 times with a .223 on a suspect is being confused with the recounting of the NVA incident? I'd had never heard anything ever once about Pat being charge with murder?

    Tell me the...
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    60gr Aguila

    60gr Aguila
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    Good thread... I like reading this stuff ...

    Good thread... I like reading this stuff

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfE4NjiJtiA some old school ways in this old NYPD docu ... If anyone is interested. (I love the old school ways of the NYPD...
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    http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/Bailey+autops...

    http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/Bailey+autopsy.pdf
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    https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/video...

    https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/video-activists-outraged-after-video-shows-response-to-suspect-reaching-for-gun-H1wkD7wdc0iaJq1ovX6e-w/
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    Bonded or non-bonded 77gr version of the Mk318

    Bonded or non-bonded 77gr version of the Mk318
  16. Some threads from m4c.net readers here might find...

    Some threads from m4c.net readers here might find interesting on similar topics, while not completely relevant to the original question asked
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    ADDED REMARKS: Original call came in as shots...

    ADDED REMARKS:
    Original call came in as shots fired. They found a casing on the sidewalk and then DPD officers took rounds. Suspect died in the hospital from injuries. Wounded Officers are in "Good...
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    https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/suspect-a...

    https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/suspect-accused-of-shooting-2-officers-in-denver-neighborhood-identified/73-57b75571-39a6-46dc-b285-af90115c56fd

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJnVYrxP-cY
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    https://youtu.be/5hN9ftvqVaU

    https://youtu.be/5hN9ftvqVaU
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    Lots of good choices already posted... I'll add a...

    Lots of good choices already posted... I'll add a few



    Target Blue by Robert. Daley

    Pure Cop by Connie Fletcher

    Leading Cops in Turbulent Times by George Saadeh
  21. I guess I do like to see a more complete series...

    I guess I do like to see a more complete series of testing is all... and while yes, it meets the IV claim for 1 shot.. they said it stopped 6... But not in that video
  22. Any info on safe life Hard Rifle Plate Level IV ICW

    https://safelifedefense.com/product/hard-rifle-plate-level-iv-icw/

    The price isnt too bad.. But looking at the PDF it appears they only tested the plate against 6 shots of M2AP/30-06

    The level...
  23. Agree... a practice I followed since my early...

    Agree... a practice I followed since my early years, carried it with me into the Army and now LE.



    essentially I figure this would be a likely reasons.. I think I kind of hinted to this as...
  24. I've also never seen it before. At least not to...

    I've also never seen it before. At least not to this degree. I mean I've seen multiple hallow point designs including my duty ammunition with some very minor and IMO insignificant "scuffing" as a...
  25. Question regarding Speer Part Number: 53966 230gr GDHP

    Its regarding Speer Part Number: 53966 230gr GDHP


    This is issued ammo by our Dept and I've sent an email out to Speer to hear what they have have to say about it...

    Out of my own curiosity on...
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