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    I claimed no expertise here, but have been quite...

    I claimed no expertise here, but have been quite factual here. What ammunition/caliber someone uses for SD is a personal choice; as I've also stated we're all free moral agents to make whatever...
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    "Probably" hardly implies certainty by any widely...

    "Probably" hardly implies certainty by any widely acceptable definition.
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    Which statement indicated certainty?

    Which statement indicated certainty?
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    Probably, subject to change if and when we get to...

    Probably, subject to change if and when we get to "know" otherwise. I'll be quite surprised when a reliable CPD source offers this information!
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    What if an attacker has a gun is a more realistic...

    What if an attacker has a gun is a more realistic consideration in self-defense (especially for a civilian) than assuming that many shots can be fired at an attacker until he is psychologically or...
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    Not to mention, unlike this hapless teenager,...

    Not to mention, unlike this hapless teenager, your attacker has a gun.........
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    Yeah, but was that a psychological or a...

    Yeah, but was that a psychological or a physiological stop? What if YOUR attacker is not prone to a psychological stop and you MUST physiologically "stop" him?
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    A reflected shot from the pavement would most...

    A reflected shot from the pavement would most likely have an upward path not downward (simple physics)..... If the deceased was standing when he was shot, (first few shots) the angle of incidence...
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    Of course, the chronological order of shots is...

    Of course, the chronological order of shots is not an issue here whatsoever.
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    This may be actually be a good time for another...

    This may be actually be a good time for another guess; your guess here about the particular 9mm JHP is as good as probably anyone's. However, it probably doesn't make a whole lot of difference; it...
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    It's "possible" that some of the 16 bullets...

    It's "possible" that some of the 16 bullets struck the pavement prior to entering tissue; however, based on relative position of the shooter and the deceased wound track #2 is highly likely to have...
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    Gladly as soon as we settle #2, as stated...

    Gladly as soon as we settle #2, as stated previously. Do you accept that penetration path length of #2 is most likely 7.1"-7.5", and if not, why not? It would certainly help the discussion if you...
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    Regarding the relevant shooting, I have seen the...

    Regarding the relevant shooting, I have seen the video. Clearly, there were no obstacles or barriers between the shooter and the deceased. Based on autopsy detail, bullet #2 travelled essentially...
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    Is that a random number generator with a range of...

    Is that a random number generator with a range of 7.1-7.5, or a random number generator from 0 to infinity? Narrow it down, to add a bit of clarity. Where's significant or probable uncertainty...
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    You do make a decent point; any one bullet can do...

    You do make a decent point; any one bullet can do "weird" things in a body. However, the FBI made REALLY A LOT out of failure of ONE bullet to penetrate sufficiently in ONE individual! The fact is...
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    So you accept that the bullet penetration path...

    So you accept that the bullet penetration path length for #2 is most probably 7.1 - 7.5" long?
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    Before we tackle #15, let's settle #2. I take it...

    Before we tackle #15, let's settle #2. I take it you don't see how the bullet path calculates close to 7.5". If, you don't see it, define/show precisely what you are referring to as "a-h",so the...
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    As pointed out previously, it doesn't matter...

    As pointed out previously, it doesn't matter because the depth is "SLIGHT" compared to the 7' lateral penetration. Obviously, that's because when you have a 7" distance squared and you add to it ...
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    That's correct; I assumed that participants in...

    That's correct; I assumed that participants in this thread are familiar with simple high-school geometry. So the bullet path in this case, #2, is soft tissue only, penetration of 7.1-7.5". Shall I...
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    I am reading it correctly, and there is NO exit...

    I am reading it correctly, and there is NO exit wound. The bullet entered 11" below top of the head and was recovered 12" below top of the head, after traveling left to right 7.0". Using simple...
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    From the detailed description this bullet did...

    From the detailed description this bullet did essentially go in a straight line:"Direction is left to right, SLIGHTLY front to back, and SLIGHTLY downward.
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    Description of the wound track is clear enough to...

    Description of the wound track is clear enough to make a good estimation of the distance between bullet entry and recovery. For example regarding bullet #2: (soft tissue only neck wound) Entry is...
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    There is actually no inconsistency whatsoever in...

    There is actually no inconsistency whatsoever in what I posted regarding FMJ vs. JHP; however, I fully realize that even the Gospels are subject to misinterpretation. I am still willing, with an...
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    I have made no claim of any scientific proof;...

    I have made no claim of any scientific proof; indeed I have not seen any scientific proofs in any firearms related Internet forums. I have specifically mentioned that I view the results of the...
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    As previously mentioned, the autopsy link is...

    As previously mentioned, the autopsy link is available on Beretta forum, in a quite recent similar topic thread. Previous autopsies that I have seen do not provide quite as much information as THIS...
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