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    Asked for whatever they could do, preferably...

    Asked for whatever they could do, preferably ammo. At least partly some sort of wacko policy thing..."tactical" gun classes for "tactical" people only. I sort of knew that but thought it was worth...
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    Yeah, I figured you meant that. Just needed to...

    Yeah, I figured you meant that. Just needed to vent. Tried to get some cost covered but was told "tactical training for SWAT guys only this year."

    This was pistol shooting skills, not dynamic...
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    I wish... Just decided against a training...

    I wish...

    Just decided against a training course I really want to go to because I can't justify using $1k of ammo for a 2-day course.
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    I think in the not-to-distant future, we might be...

    I think in the not-to-distant future, we might be looking back at now as the good old days.
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    As I say, I was just sharing. Source is a guy...

    As I say, I was just sharing. Source is a guy that I know is a dealer, also a long-time admin at a well-known forum, and well-regarded there. He made no claim that it was in stock for any period of...
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    The FFL who received says it is new. What is on...

    The FFL who received says it is new. What is on page is what is available (or was yesterday) and not necessarily the entire Federal lineup...just what is in stock at distributor. I am just posting...
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    Ammo pricing dealer cost sheet.

    Thought this was interesting....Distributor pricing to dealer, obtained from a dealer. Supposedly was in stock and ready to ship as of yesterday.

    68087
  8. Sometimes I feel like I get less muzzle rise with...

    Sometimes I feel like I get less muzzle rise with a P229 than P226, but that could be imaginary. Never tested it.
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    Stay out of Illinois, brother.

    Stay out of Illinois, brother.
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    I doubt it. I have seen the drive stun issue...

    I doubt it. I have seen the drive stun issue raised elsewhere specifically as its own issue. The politicians and activist groups share information, draft proposals, talking points, etc., ...there...
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    "not going to hold my breath" I see what you did...

    "not going to hold my breath" I see what you did there.....Nice one.
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    I think the idea is that the subject should have...

    I think the idea is that the subject should have the opportunity to see what is coming and surrender, and is deprived that opportunity if zapped in the back. Typing that made me spill my coffee due...
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    Thanks, guys, for the education. I had assumed...

    Thanks, guys, for the education. I had assumed Glock, himself "ran" things but others designed the gun. Always happy to learn new stuff!
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    No, I think I just wasn't clear. My guess was...

    No, I think I just wasn't clear. My guess was that persons experienced in the design of firearms designed the Glock 17, subject to the goals of the customer., which is why I would be interested in...
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    Just a guess and an uninformed one at that, but...

    Just a guess and an uninformed one at that, but that guess is that it was primarily based on the goals of simple design, few parts and low price, as requested by the army at the time. My...
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    I agree. Dr. Norman is a really interesting guy...

    I agree. Dr. Norman is a really interesting guy with great perspectives on the interaction between cognitive science and engineering/design.

    A couple quotes from him worth thinking about:
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    I apologize for a partial thread derailment. ...

    I apologize for a partial thread derailment.

    1. The fact a claim is made or a suit is filed does not mean the allegations are provable or true (and those are not necessarily the same thing). We...
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    Very curious about what wore out. Assuming it...

    Very curious about what wore out. Assuming it was not the frame, Kahr sells almost every part imaginable on their website and most can be easily replaced. Many small parts on any gun will "wear...
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    For some reason I seem to be drawn to unpopular...

    For some reason I seem to be drawn to unpopular guns (such as Sig DAK, HK LEM, PX4). So of course I also like the Kahrs. As to both the .380 and 9mm, I prefer the trigger on the Kahr to anything...
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    Watching their video, it actually looks pretty...

    Watching their video, it actually looks pretty cool for those who might want or need such things. With some imagination I could see some potential uses. Locally we have had a few unmarked take home...
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    Since pretty much every internet source on which...

    Since pretty much every internet source on which the video was posted decided within a few hours that we should not be allowed to hear the commentary and deleted the audio, I retract my prediction. ...
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    Perhaps I am seeing it incorrectly, but watching the relevant bits frame-by-frame, it appeared that several small holes began to appear right in the round bullseye-shaped circle on the chest during...
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    I would love a full Sabrina. Um, perhaps I...

    I would love a full Sabrina.

    Um, perhaps I have drifted off topic.
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    Thanks. I am curious about what was said by...

    Thanks. I am curious about what was said by both, demeanor of assailant just before video, whether he had stick and had dropped it before picking it up again, etc., as would/will be shown in the...
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    Perhaps I am seeing it incorrectly, but watching...

    Perhaps I am seeing it incorrectly, but watching the relevant bits frame-by-frame, it appeared that several small holes began to appear right in the round bullseye-shaped circle on the chest during...
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