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    Well, since we agree, what else is there to talk...

    Well, since we agree, what else is there to talk about:-) Race polos? :-)
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    I don't disagree in theory, but most real world...

    I don't disagree in theory, but most real world shootings offer very little to support this.
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    I'm getting a little outside my lane here, but I...

    I'm getting a little outside my lane here, but I don't think it is athleticism, so much as strategy and efficiency. Most of the top shooters don't meet my personal definition of athletic. USPSA is...
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    AJ, I just want to be clear, I have nothing...

    AJ,

    I just want to be clear, I have nothing against you personally, and I certainly was not trying to be insulting when talking about USPSA classification. There are many measures of a shooter,...
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    Wife is out hunting so I have a few minutes. ...

    Wife is out hunting so I have a few minutes.

    Fair enough points. Some of that I wasn't paying much attention to at the time, partly because those guys didn't come onto pistol forum, touting the...
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    Wow, a reply. You'll have to forgive my...

    Wow, a reply. You'll have to forgive my incredulity, as you ignored pointed questions to you from at least two of us before.

    Just to clarify a couple of things.

    I have never, as in not once,...
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    You need to go away. You're a cowardly, drive...

    You need to go away.

    You're a cowardly, drive by poster, who contributes nothing to this forum. You're opinion on any of these matters is like me asking my 3 year old.
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    Surf, I saw that in the video as well and...

    Surf, I saw that in the video as well and certainly wondered about it.

    I don't question Ernie's experience or ability to determine hits vs misses, but that hit is definitely tough to look at!
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    I've been mulling this over for the last couple...

    I've been mulling this over for the last couple of days. Mr. White brings up a good point. Todd and I thought that stuff over very carefully when coming up with the KSTG rules. Less specific...
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    I own everything I said previously, and stand by...

    I own everything I said previously, and stand by it. That said, I am a bit grumpier tonight than usual, so I'm going to bow out.

    Some of you get it. Some do not. Not my concern. You should...
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    I'm sorry do you need a safe space and a...

    I'm sorry do you need a safe space and a counselor? You are playing a stupid game, by trying to pretend like your gun isn't quite the advantage that it is. What is your USPSA classification? What...
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    It has been too many years since I shot true...

    It has been too many years since I shot true USPSA Open guns, so I can't really comment directly about them at this point. I refer to the Roland Special as an open gun, since it has a comp, dot and...
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    And who, exactly, are you referring to?

    And who, exactly, are you referring to?
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    He was slower, but as you noted, he never really...

    He was slower, but as you noted, he never really put much time into them.

    Anyway, I'm done rolling in the mud. I can do a 4.5 sec FAST on demand, with full power .40 ammo in a stock G22. I can...
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    I didn't realize you were carrying a gun with...

    I didn't realize you were carrying a gun with less potential. My bad. You should switch to a better gun right away.



    I'm well aware of Todd's thoughts on the matter. He was fairly...
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    I believe I remember discussing that with him. ...

    I believe I remember discussing that with him.

    I have never said that Todd would have objected. That isn't the issue. The issue is that the dot pistol is such an advantage, that it invalidates...
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    It would make no sense to shoot a gun you don't...

    It would make no sense to shoot a gun you don't carry for FAST. My only point was it shouldn't count for a coin. It simply isn't even close to being the same as irons, and is not in the spirit or...
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    Asian Jedi, I helped Todd develop the FAST...

    Asian Jedi,

    I helped Todd develop the FAST test. My opinion here is just my opinion, and differs from Ernest's opinion. Ernest gets to do what he wants with the FAST.

    I have nothing to do...
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    I first learned it from Insights training Center,...

    I first learned it from Insights training Center, and then later had it reinforced by Rob Leatham.

    Dove,

    I definitely do not raise my heels off the ground. The idea is to be able to move in a...
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    Thanks dude, I could swear that was the deal from...

    Thanks dude, I could swear that was the deal from back then, but she doesn't remember the conversation.
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    Talked to the aforementioned female shooter. She...

    Talked to the aforementioned female shooter. She does not remember any of this happening. Said neither of them ever had access to just the frames. Sorry, maybe I was mixing stories or confusing...
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    I used the standard trijicon night sights on my...

    I used the standard trijicon night sights on my G22.

    I would have much prefered a .110-.115 front sight, keeping the standard width rear sight. Most of my previous thinner front sights were in...
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    Her male teammate did the same, fwiw, but I don't...

    Her male teammate did the same, fwiw, but I don't remember the details off hand. It had to do with how the trigger fit the frame, iirc. I'll ask.

    Point being that the frame controls a lot of...
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    Can you explain your test a little more fully...

    Can you explain your test a little more fully please, I'm not following completely. Is the trigger held to the rear, or all the way out? I assume all the way out, since you said reset, but maybe...
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    I don't remember saying (though I may have) MY...

    I don't remember saying (though I may have) MY accuracy standard for Glocks is around 4", but I often find Glocks that won't do better than that. My first Gen 3 G22 would do 2", and my first gen 2...
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