Didn't the G2 have problems to the point of the FBI dropping it and replacing it with Critical Duty?
It seems like most of the professionally conducted test results I've seen of it have had problems particularly with expansion.
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I believe it is still on the @DocGKR list?
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I'm going from memory but I recall it being posted here before that it was a purchase contract issue, not a performance issue. The contract was awarded to multiple vendors and they would buy so much from each. Winchester also got a slice of the pie, IIRC.
I'm sure if I'm remembering incorrectly someone will come along and smack me back into my proper place soon.
The original batch in 2015 was as recalled. Turns out Speer’s equipment was not cutting the jackets deeply enough to expand properly. Several of us on PF bought the recalled ammo at very good prices (cheaper than FMJ at the time) for training.
The issue was fixed and the ammo went back in service where they still use it today. They maxed out the contract and when they tested for a new contract the Critical Duty did marginally better so it received the contract.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with G2 and I purchased a couple cases for myself before the prices doubled this year.
ETA - just read BBI’s post. He’s correct. Winchester is also available for purchase on their new contract.
147 G2 has had expansion problems in clear gel, 4ld ordnance gel, etc. They ended up recalling a bunch of ammo in 2014-2015 and selling it as practice ammo.
We discussed it recently in this thread: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....arisons-Part-I
Supposedly it is all better now, but you'll still sometimes come across current headstamp ammo being sold for training only: https://www.luckygunner.com/9mm-147-...nly-350-rounds
No. your info is out of date.
As El Cid stated expansion issues with G2 were "teething " issues with the initial production lots. Speer recalled that ammo and sold it in bulk as practice only. The current G2 is good to go and has been for couple years now..
In Gov't. contracting you normally cant say "I want X" you have to describe X and/or it's performance and hope you get the X you wanted.
Say a hypothetical 3 letter agency wanted critical duty 9mm so they put out s solicitation for 147 grain 9mm JHP with "goo" in the hollow point (just like critical duty). Since critical Duty is the only such ammo on the market you think you will get exactly what you want. But another company (Speer) develops a 147 grain 9mm JHP with "Goo" that meets the same standards as Critical Duty and the new load (G2) wins the contract.
However, you still want CD. so instead of renewing the initial contract you re-compete and wind up a 135 grain hollow point with goo in the JHP in the flavor you wanted.
You had me excited but they are out of stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0ddl0t;962026
Supposedly it is all better now, but you'll still sometimes come across current headstamp ammo being sold for training only: [url