Originally Posted by
JRB
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We're talking past each other here because I agree with most of what you're saying, but you not understanding the point I'm trying to make. There's a difference between realistically accepting that mistakes will be made due to the size and scales involved, and actually being 'OK' with those mistakes.
I'm not OK with those mistakes, I'm not OK with with it happening, but I do not believe it's realistic or effective to decree-from-on-high that no mistakes will be made, ever, else ye be burned at the stake. Demanding a zero-defect environment is exactly what leads to these problems taking root because subordinates will only seek to hide their mistakes entirely for fear of being crucified, and a lot less learning occurs because of it. Fear of being caught making a mistake overrides any desire to improve from making them, and that reduces the real value in training.
I am not sure how you got that from what I wrote. In your original reply you seemed to be defending failure as just part of training. I feel the goal should be to strive for zero failures realizing they will happen then take measures to fix them. I am not talking about mistakes I am talking about failures. The actions in the video were a failure not a mistake. A failure by the Chain of Command to allow it to happen and then not correct it prior to the DIV CSM getting involved.
With higher stakes like that, too, the E4 mafia and below just want it all over with, and will make every effort to just 'check the block' instead of trying to improve or get more out of their time on facilities like shoothouses. You have to allow that your subordinates will make mistakes, and you have to be more concerned with how they prevent it in the future instead of simply preventing all mistakes entirely.
Your apparent leadership style of demanding a perfect, zero-defect environment 100% of the time, that blames as fully as possible to the lowest level, and indignantly preens themselves with trash like 'THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR DELTA COMPANY SOLDIERS' is a root fucking cause of low morale, suicide, lack of faith in leadership, low retention rates, and the exact 'check the block and get this over with before something gets us in trouble' training standards that you're so against.