1301 with 8-pellet Flitecontrol?

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Originally Posted by Erick Gelhaus

Last weekend, in a class, I demo'd 8 pellet Winchester Ranger low recoil, 8 pellet Hornady light magnum versi-tite, and old 9pellet Fed LE132. Ran them through my 1301 (A zone), and two different Vang'd 870s - circa '94 (head) and circa '02 (C/D zone). All at 10 yards since we were from a home defense premise.

Top target - Hornady 8 pellet in the upper A zone;

Bottom left target - Fed 9 pellet LE132 in the low A zone;

Bottom right target - Winchester Range 8 pellet in the upper A zone;

Attachment 64560

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Thanks for sharing those patterns. I'm surprised the versatite wad load wasn't a little tighter for 10 yards

My 1301T gobbles up 8-pellet Reduced Recoil 00 Flite Control with the same speed and intensity as Rosie O'Donnell mowing down a Chinese buffet.

I have never seen it fail to function with that load.

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Originally Posted by Balisong

Thanks for sharing those patterns. I'm surprised the versatite wad load wasn't a little tighter for 10 yards

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You're welcome, sir.

It was within my palm & I don't have big hands - but, you're right, it's not as tight as the old Vang gun. The was Hornady's 1400fps version. I'm happy with its performance out of the gun.

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Originally Posted by Joe Mac

Before my recent retirement from the PD, I was involved in testing potential new duty shotguns. Our SWAT guys had already bought several 1301s for special purposes, I'd worked with them in classes, and I tested the 1301 for the larger patrol shotgun cadre. I've been instructing patrol shotgun for 20 years, but had no prior experience with the 1301.

Our duty ammo (used in 870s) is low-recoil Truball slugs as primary (LEB127 LRS), with 8-pellet Flitecontrol (LE133 00) optional. The low-recoil slugs ran beautifully in the 1301.

I *thought* the conventional interweb wisdom was that 8-pellet buck runs reliably in the 1301; it did not. No matter how experienced the shooter, it just seemed too light to cycle the action reliably. We resolved that if we did adopt the 1301, we'd change the buck load.

So.. what'd I miss? I'm thinking of buying a 1301, and wondering what I'd feed it.. Does 9-pellet LE132 run better, or is full charge buck needed? What are you guys running for buck in these guns?

Thanks

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surprised none of y'all have thrown up the bat signal..

@e-stern

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Originally Posted by GearFondler

There's a bazillion post thread here on the 1301 that's been ongoing since its debut and you won't find anything in there about 8p FC 00 causing issues. I realize that is not exactly scientific data but it's hard for me to believe that with all the contributors over the years this would go unnoticed if it was a problem. For what that's worth.

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Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm thinking.. Just a bit unnerving that if we did have a weak lot of 8-pellet, it caused problems in four different 1301s, while not being feeble enough to notice any difference in the 870s.

I suppose this begs a question: how much is enough vetting for a semi auto shotgun?

My first outing I put an uncomfortable amount of money downrange with Flitecontrol buck. I also worked out a “deal” for 150 rounds of LE133 to augment what I had at home, but that was $2/round (I’m pretty sure the last time I bought it I paid about .80/rd). I had no issues, but in the current climate I don’t know that I’m super comfortable burning more LE133 - I want a stash for rotation and class use, and I don’t know how easy it’ll be to replace what I have. Is it enough to run similarly-powered birdshot after an initial batch of my HD buck?

This thread is weakening my resolve that I don't need this shotgun...

Thanks for nothing, fellas. ;)

I don't have a huge round count, maybe 500-ish, but mine runs anything I stick in it. I have run birdshot, reduced recoil and full power slugs, and reduced recoil (including LE133), standard and magnum buckshot. The 1301T is the best shotgun I have ever owned and has replaced my 870P for my shotgun defensive needs.

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Originally Posted by blues

This thread is weakening my resolve that I don't need this shotgun...

Thanks for nothing, fellas. ;)

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Look @ it this way @ least you won't be checking the battery gage every few weeks ........... just saying.

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Originally Posted by blues

This thread is weakening my resolve that I don't need this shotgun...

Thanks for nothing, fellas. ;)

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I caved last month, put the deposit down on one of the next batch of LTT's coming in....