Week 409: If You Aren't Fast Enough, It Doesn't Matter How Accurate You Are

Week 409: If You Aren't Fast Enough, It Doesn't Matter How Accurate You Are

Results may be posted until February 28th, 2021.

Designed by: Gabe White
Range: 3 yards
Target: USPSA Metric or IDPA
Start Position: Holster and Ready
Rounds Fired: 2

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Originally Posted by Ben Stoeger

If you aren't fast enough, it doesn't matter how accurate you are...

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I've heard this idea expressed quite a bit less than the idea behind DotW 408 (if you aren't accurate enough, it doesn't matter how fast you are), but it's also true. A big part of the challenge of practical shooting is the recognition that there is a time limit. And while it may or may not be a challenging time limit, it probably cannot be precisely discerned beforehand. We have to shoot accurately enough, at a relevant speed. If we aren't fast enough, it won't matter how accurate we are.

String 1: Start with loaded handgun at the ready, target at 3 yards. At the start signal, shoot 1 shot to the lower A/-0 zone (body, not head.) Record your time and hit. You must make the hit in less than 0.50 seconds.

String 2: Start with handgun loaded and holstered, hands at sides, target at 3 yards. At the start signal, draw and shoot 1 shot to the lower A/-0 zone (body, not head.) Record your time and hit. You must make the hit in less than 1.50 seconds.

You must make both hits under the time limits to Pass.

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

Target, gun, holster, concealment (if used)
Time and hit on String 1
Time and hit on String 2
Pass or Fail
Anything you noticed

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

Will try this Sunday.

Target, gun, holster, concealment (if used)
B8, Dan Wesson CCO, JMCK George, flannel shirt

Time and hit on String 1
0.73 hit

Time and hit on String 2
1.76 hit

Pass or Fail
F

I am not well practiced enough to really drive the wheels off.

Well, I'm not fast enough. :(

Target, gun, holster, concealment (if used) B8, Walther P99C, unknown IWB, square-bottomed shirt
Time and hit on String 1 .62, 9
Time and hit on String 2 1.73, 9 (barely)
Pass or Fail Fail
Anything you noticed Reacting to the beep has always been a weak spot with me. The above were my first two shots; I tried some more just to see if I got faster and ended up with pretty much the same time each try. I'm just old and slow. The 15 mph wind against my back didn't help with clearing the shirt out of the way.

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Since this is a one shot drill, there is no recoil management issue to deal with to do well on this drill. Therefore, a LOT can be done in dry fire to train to meet the required time. No ammo needed. I'd suggest spending a week dry firing it with the timer and I am pretty sure that majority would have no problem making the time

PX4CC, JM IWB 3

String 1 - 0.70 = fail. Only on the way home did I realize that it should probably have been a compressed ready; I did low ready.

String 2 - 1.92 = fail. Just not sudden enough these days.

P-07 Prograde w/TLR8, AIWB under heavy sweater. 4 runs on each string. I shot string 1 with hammer back, and in DA to see what difference that made. Answer: not much. 0.02 to 0.05s

String 1
0.39 SA 0.44DA, 0.39 SA, 0.41 DA. All clean.

String 2
0.93, 0.93, 0.97, 0.94. All clean.

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Originally Posted by Clusterfrack

P-07 Prograde w/TLR8, AIWB under heavy sweater. 4 runs on each string. I shot string 1 with hammer back, and in DA to see what difference that made. Answer: not much. 0.02 to 0.05s

String 1
0.39 SA 0.44DA, 0.39 SA, 0.41 DA. All clean.

String 2
0.93, 0.93, 0.97, 0.94. All clean.

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Gamer! LOL

Good work!

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Originally Posted by revchuck38

Gamer! LOL

Good work!

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I wanted to confirm if decocking to DA after an engagement results in a slower shot from ready with finger indexed. Ever so slightly.

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Originally Posted by Clusterfrack

I wanted to confirm if decocking to DA after an engagement results in a slower shot from ready with finger indexed. Ever so slightly.

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Good idea. Then you have to decide if the juice (that .05 second advantage) is worth the squeeze. I've been decocking when coming off target for so long I'm not sure it would be for me. This is definitely a YMMV thing.