See what you need to see training.
What you’ll need.
1. Holster
2. Gun
3. Sheets of white copy paper.
4. Black marker or 2” black pasters.
5. Tape measure.
6. Shot timer.
Step one:
Get a baseline. This is about figuring out your speed and mechanics, not about achieving some set standard.
It’s about figuring out what YOUR wobble baseline is at what speed.
String 1:
15 yards from a holster. Two shots in 2.0 seconds.
Dry fire it. Then live fire it. Then dry fire it. Etc until you’ve repeated for 10 shots.
You may throw out one flier. Use the ruler to measure the distance from the center. Look at the shot timer to get a sense of what your draw and split breakdown is. Write it on the paper and put it aside.
The goal is to train the dry vision to the live mechanics and Vice versa. Basically what you’re seeing in the quiet of dry and how that translates over to what lands on paper.
String 2:
7 yards from a holster. Two shots in 1.5 seconds.
Alternate dry and live until 10 shots elapsed.
Same scoring rules.
String 3:
3 yards from a holster. Two shots in 1.0 seconds total.
Work this one in dry 5x first. If can’t get the first shot off in dry by par, may extend time to 1.2 seconds for the drill.
But the point of this drill is to develop the index. Even if you don’t see the sights, you’ll be working on hitting using the general silhouette and feel of the gun and over time you’ll get fast enough to get a flash of red on target.
At the end of this, you’ll have a basic sense and data of what group size you can hit at what speed.
AND…. the distances scale. So if you had a 4” group at 15 yards at that pace, that’s what your 2” group pace at 7 is.
You’ll range find off the MOA scaling of the dot on target.
I’m a big fan of alternating dry and live runs to clean up sight picture and give them tools to develop on their own.
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Why this is different than standard drills
I’ll explain a little further why this should feel different than “regular” drills.
In traditional drills it usually has a time parameter and a skill requirement for “medium” level accomplishment.
This is different because you’re not actually expected to hit the target (2” paster).
It’s more of an “aiming spot” and there is no “pass” requirement. It’s to establish a personal baseline to work from and improve.
It’s a way to know at all times what vision of your sight corresponds to what spread of wobble and approximately how much time you need to take for that. And to train improvement in accuracy at speed… but mainly to give someone confidence of what they can and cannot hit based off vision under time pressure.
This is why the Bakersfield 10 round COF was so effective.
This is like a training vision regimen to succeed at things like that….
Pick an aiming spot and improve vision correlated with what radius spread from that aiming spot in what time.
Part of the reason why there’s not a standard to pass is that it’s different for different equipment and different mechanics and the only thing that counts at the end of the day is that YOU can know what you can hit at what speed and your vision will tell you if you’re on or not.
That’s part of the “see what you need to see” and “shot calling” training.
The fundamental of that is “know what you need to see” and range finding at speed is the first step of this.
I constantly am going back to drills like this to see if I’m being honest with what I think my speed and vision are.
It’s not about “passing” a test. It’s about improving skills no matter where they’re at.
Don’t worry about what the results are and don’t be embarrassed
So I was messaging with a friend today about this drill and I wanted to reiterate that nobody should care what the results of this drill are.
If you’re self-conscious, you don’t have to post targets or results at all. They’re mainly for you.
What I want is the feedback of what you’re noticing and what is improving with the dry to live back to back runs.
I’ll give you an aside. I went to the range today and I started off sucking ass. Looked like a shotgun blast from 10 yards away….
So I buckled down and paid attention to what my hands and eyes were doing, adjusted some stance and grip and tightened up my groups at speed.
This drill is about learning how to coach yourselves. It never ends. I’m constantly having to correct and remind myself of things I’ve forgotten.
Don’t feel bad. Feel free to post up in the thread even if it’s just your gross observations even without posting targets and group sizes. Those parts are mainly for your own tracking and learning progress.
See what you need to see training.
Ok. Yes for me there is no chance of making these par times from concealment. I started with my hand touching the gun and my support hand holding my shirt and coat up.
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I think I need to chunk up the process more. I definitely had a hard time tracking the dot after the first shot at these speeds. I am frankly surprised some of these made it on the paper.
During the dry fire I adjusted my grip several times to stop the dot from moving. I did this multiple times and i feel like the subsequent live fire shots where better. But I still frequently could not go back in my minds eye and see what that second shot dot/sight picture looked like.
As the par time got shorter I definitely felt my trigger control becoming more and more slappy and jerky with the increasing sense of urgency. Even dry firing with the 1sec time i felt kind of jerky and lots of muscle tension trying to force things too much. I only saw the dot about half of the first shots at that 1s par.
When I could pull it together and watch the dot, I had what felt like harsh corrections and over corrections. Looked like a freakin EKG or something.
I feel like I need remedial; how to track the dot under/after recoil.
I definitely need to work my finesse grip more.
I noticed several times I closed my left eye.
I focused on the dot way too many times.
Uggg.
Was very interesting and fun though to try new things and approaches. I’m going to play with my grip and trigger pulls like in your videos.