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I know you’re not looking for sympathy or anything. I just appreciate our LE.Quote:
Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's
Stuff like this is where I’m like “Man, they screwed up stuff in the old west for sure, but this is a hang them all in the town square kind of thing and don’t take 5-10 years for the trial and appeals”.
My heart breaks for the family of the victim and the LE that have to re-live, document the pieces, deal with the media, etc., etc.
That's something I think about a lot. Tough job.Quote:
Originally Posted by BWT
Inspected this morning and turned a couple of shovels worth. They vacated, cannot say how many died but the mound is now empty.....OC has washed deeper into the soil from all the rain.Quote:
Originally Posted by blues
Fireants will generally move away when their mound is disturbed, which is why they're so hard to kill. Even then, the mound you see is just the outpost- the queen and the important bits are often surprisingly far away.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatdog
Does parental and personal accountability come into play?Quote:
Originally Posted by RevolverRob
I could not do it, and I admire those who can, and yet manage to maintain some semblance of grace.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLebowski
One would think so but the people having these kids are products of the social collapse of their economic/ethnic/racial cohort. To expect them become Ward and June Cleaver when you yell at them, isn't going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheap Shot
Did some volunteer work with young girls who became pregnant and thrown out of middle and high school. The idea was to aid in them learning the math requirements. They became 'parents'. The increase in single parent, young mother homes due to the lack of good jobs for males is well known across the world, not just here. Add racial discrimination for the available jobs as happened for many years and it's a toxic mix.
Biden had it correct, when he mentioned that kids in those homes hear a million less words, not read to etc. in their early development. Starting with studies on visual and language deprivation we know that this interferes with experience expectant growth of cortical neural structures. This is hard to correct later in life and maybe impossible. Language skills, cognitive skills, social controls of aggression, etc. are forming and are disrupted.
Thus, parental responsibility is great and perhaps we can teach it to kids approaching middle school and high school to break the cycle but the cliche doesn't help much.
Now in some cases, it does. The parents, of seeming 'normal' family structure, who buy obviously disturbed kids guns and that goes south - yep, put them in jail as a deterrent to others. But those are rarer cases in the rampages.
Yes, but lack of personal accountability and bad parents are both products of the root issues that @RevolverRob is talking about. With the root issues present, we'll continue with the trend of bad kids becoming bad parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheap Shot
Even if we were to fix the root issues overnight, it would still take several generations for the family issues to improve.
This isn't an excuse to bad behavior in society....it's simply an acknowledgement to the "why". It's no secret that kids who grow up in awful conditions but have some sort of positive support network which sets the right conditions that Rob is referring to (such as an afterschool program, JROTC, boy scouts, church, whatever) tend to come out ahead compared to kids that don't have that support network. That support network teaches them personal accountability, and they usually go on to become productive citizens and good parents.
Agreed..Quote:
Originally Posted by TGS
That's why we need to get government out of the business of administering charity in the misguided claim of social welfare.