Teach me about STI guns

Went to a vet. range event locally last night, the range had a Staccato P available for rent, so I did. Sent some warm 124 grain pills down range, felt about the same as mild 124 grain out of my all-steel commander. Nice gun - practically though, I think a DUO C2 would be the cat's meow for me if the price is ever right.

Biggest thing for me was 'wait.....I haven't swapped mags yet? huh'

Some illustrations of the new models are floating around (below are at Rainier Arms).

Staccato R (5" single stack)

https://www.rainierarms.com/media/ca...cato_r_1_1.png

Staccato P (updated to 4.4" Barrel)

https://www.rainierarms.com/media/ca...staccato_p.png

Staccato XL (5.4" barrel)

https://www.rainierarms.com/media/ca...taccato_xl.png

Staccato C2 (3.2" barrel)

https://www.rainierarms.com/media/ca...taccato_c2.png

Staccato XC

https://www.rainierarms.com/media/ca...taccato_xc.png

There are also duo models of the C2 and Staccato P.

There’s also now a DUO version of the standard C

I'm wondering if the Staccato P 5" will no longer be offered? Perhaps the 4.45" replaces both the 4.15" and 5" models? If so, the 5" (P5?) will have been short lived indeed.

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Originally Posted by JSGlock34

I'm wondering if the Staccato P 5" will no longer be offered? Perhaps the 4.45" replaces both the 4.15" and 5" models? If so, the 5" (P5?) will have been short lived indeed.

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Yeah, I’m kind of lusting after that R, but I also want an R2 and both in DUO format.

I wish STI would use more understood terminology/ 5” Government; 4.25” Commander, 4.00”, 3.5” Officer.

That said, the XC looks super-tasty.

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Originally Posted by Bergeron

I wish STI would use more understood terminology/ 5” Government; 4.25” Commander, 4.00”, 3.5” Officer.

That said, the XC looks super-tasty.

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We dont make a commander sized gun.

Not sure what the R2 is.

We will not put the duo on the R.

The p5 was never a production model, never sold well within law enforcement. People just assumed since we made 100 of them that they were going into full production.

The 4.45 replaces the 4.15 this year.

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Originally Posted by Buck8154

Not sure what the R2 is.

We will not put the duo on the R.

The p5 was never a production model, never sold well within law enforcement. People just assumed since we made 100 of them that they were going into full production.

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R2 was my made up designation for a double stack 5” .45.

I think I remember you saying in 9mm in the P5, slide velocity was too low with the DUO + 9mm + 5” slide. Does this hold true for the R in .45?

If the C2 can be had as a non duo, how is it different than the C? Double stack?

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Originally Posted by RAM Engineer

R2 was my made up designation for a double stack 5” .45.

I think I remember you saying in 9mm in the P5, slide velocity was too low with the DUO + 9mm + 5” slide. Does this hold true for the R in .45?

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We have never tested a optic on a 5” .45 as I only sold 11 guns in .45 to leo nationwide this year. 4 of those guns were to the same two officers.

The R was designed purely for uspsa and ipsc single stack divisions.