Something to keep an eye out for: Hydra-Shok Deep .380

I have no info other than that Federal is releasing a 380 load that is reported to reach 12" in gel both with any without heavy clothing. If the load is reasonably priced and delivers consistent performance it should be a "game changer."

No info yet on weight, velocity, barrel used, etc. Will update when possible.

I wouldn't hate it.

If the numbers are good out of a LCP I'm down to clown.

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Originally Posted by 45dotACP

If the numbers are good out of a LCP I'm down to clown.

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You, me, and a lot of others I'm sure.

Interesting they’re expanding what is considered to be an outdated old school design.

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Originally Posted by Bucky

Interesting they’re expanding what is considered to be an outdated old school design.

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Hydra-Shok Deep is pretty new and is an update to the legacy Hydra-Shok.

Up to this point it has only been available in 9mm, 40 S&W and 45 Auto.

If the 380 load works like they're advertising it should be THE choice for pocket pistols and will hopefully lead to other stuff like a 38 Special.

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Interested in this one, as well.

FWIW, TFB mentioned 99 gr, 1000 fps.

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Originally Posted by Gater

TFB mentioned 99 gr, 1000 fps.

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Seems a bit fast for a 2.75" barrel. I guess we'll see...

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Originally Posted by Tokarev

If the 380 load works like they're advertising it should be THE choice for pocket pistols and will hopefully lead to other stuff like a 38 Special.

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I agree. The only .380 I own is an LCP I and I don't trust it for anything, so that's a no go. Proper ammo makes me want to consider a GLOCK 42, as it's lighter / smaller than my 43, though I wonder how it compares to my P938 which is also smaller than my 43. :confused:

I'm assuming that Federal will make the ammo more accessible / affordable than the Hornady offering, which seems to be the go-to load for .380s today.

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Originally Posted by Tokarev

Seems a bit fast for a 2.75" barrel. I guess we'll see...

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.380 99gr HST averages 925fps from the Kahr P380:
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2...omparison.html

I wish the major manufacturers would work on getting a SAAMI .380 +P standardized. Current SAAMI is for .380 is 100 years old, and at 21kpsi, is 5kpsi lower then .25 ACP.

Underwood has been loading .380 +P's for ~7 years, and they have proven safe out of the all the modern locked breach pocket pistols (P380, LCP, Taurus.)

Standard Underwood .380+p is 90gr @ 1125fps from a LCP.

Paired with a limited expansion projectile (XTP, FTX, Hydrashok deep) that keep expansion around 0.45", a .380 +P would solve the current lack of penetration / expansion we see with .380.

Underwood .380 +P XTP makes it 15":
https://youtu.be/6F5rPTHcrmg?t=324

That said, I'm hopeful for the Hydrashok deep.