Interview with Eddie Gallagher.
I am sure everyone knows at least the basics of the case. Whatever side you are on, I found this interview interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZqQjYqR96E
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Interview with Eddie Gallagher.
I am sure everyone knows at least the basics of the case. Whatever side you are on, I found this interview interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZqQjYqR96E
This one was interesting too. Didn’t listen to the one posted above.
https://youtu.be/A2Hq3QJQ9fw
I listened to the Mike Drop today.
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I listened to both. The one you posted is good, but I prefer the one with Ritland just a bit more.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreggW
Either interview offers some interesting insight into the world of prosecutions and being the accused. Gallagher comes off good and likable in both interviews, but we are only hearing one side of the story.
I don’t have a dog in the fight but I saw this when it aired. It was disturbing if even half of it is true.
It’s title is “The Gallagher Effect” and it includes video interviews. Can’t find the whole thing but found this preview.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rK8tJcNpi94
The whole thing is available on Hulu.
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Originally Posted by El Cid
I listened to both Podcasts. I am a little familiar with Stumpf from Joe Rogan, but the other podcast is foreign to me. They both seem like pretty respected guys in their community. That’s one of the things that jumped out at me; both interviewers definitely seem to be Gallagher supporters which may tell us something.
I’m glad this stuff is out here now so we don’t have to rely on the 24-hour news networks to hear a perspective.
This is very damaging to the Navy no matter who is righteous.
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Wasn't the point to give Gallagher an opportunity to get his side out there? We heard plenty of what the media and government wanted us to hear already. It appears that a good bit of what Gallagher tells us is born out by the fact that he was acquitted.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNewbie
And if there was ever a jury pool likely to side with the government, I'd think it would be a jury made up of all military members asked to decide a "war crime" that would make them all look bad.Quote:
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Originally Posted by JohnO
Yes, I guess I was sort of pointing out the obvious. Personally, I side with Gallagher. What he says in the interviews about the prosecution is scary and disgusting.
He was acquitted only because they royally eff’d up the trial. He should be in jail.
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I'm not sure you understand our adversarial form of justice. If "they royally eff'd up the trial" the accused ipso facto gets to go free. If the prosecution can't prove the case, you're acquitted. The burden of proof is on the state.Quote:
Originally Posted by bravo7
Being acquitted and being innocent are two different things.
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Originally Posted by bravo7
I think he understands that, John. The point of his post was very obvious to me that he feels Gallagher deserves to be in jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by john c
Notice how the SEALs have respect for Marine Scout Sniper School. Professional and cool.
Seems like a nice enough guy to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by bravo7
Deserves has got nothing to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TGS
"That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, is a Maxim that has been long and generally approved." Benjamin Franklin, letter to Benjamin Vaughan, March 14th, 1785.
I'm not taking a side on this one way or another.
Lower the autism dial and read it like a normal human being.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by bravo7
Every SEAL I personally know, and know of, (know plenty in my line of work) seems to be a big supporter of his.
Did you listen to the interview? The witnesses fell apart on the stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by bravo7
It might be my autism, but I think that people who are acquitted at trial don’t deserve to be in jail. That’s whether they did it, or not. Ergo my quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by TGS
I’m pretty absolutist about that.
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Not to mention that another SEAL confessed to the murder on the stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLebowski
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I have no horse in this race, but the Medic who confessed to the murder did also testify that Gallagher stabbed the sedated prisoner. He just testified the stab wound might not have been fatal or possibly that the prisoner was already dead. So even if you find him believable (which I didn't), Gallagher is still out there stabbing prisoners. Just not to death.
But everything these days is partisan as hell, so...
A five hour long interview with Eddie Gallagher on the Shawn Ryan Vigilance Elite channel. Ryan also interviews Gallagher's wife and son.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceJCGboivPk
I haven't finished listening to the 5 hour, but stabbing vs opening an airway seems slightly different. But I've only heard his version so far and not even his whole version.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRoland
Am I missing something?
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5 hour interview is really well done. Seems like Gallagher is honest and owns up to his mistakes. Regardless of what you think of him, his teammates royally fucked him. Also personally dealing with NCIS in country and after my best friends suicide, they are really unprofessional and pieces of shit.
Nice broad brush you’ve got there. Some of the most dishonest and cowardly people I’ve ever met have been Marines; that still doesn’t color my view of the group.Quote:
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Btw, I don’t, never did, and never will work for NCIS. I’ve met some good agents there, though.
I'm sure we would get along great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Le Français
This was forever ago, but at the time I was referring to testimony at the trial, not Youtube. I don't know the truth of the matter but I put a ton more weight on the trial reporting (which I remember to be still pretty unclear) than Youtube (where you can learn that the moon landing is fake).Quote:
Originally Posted by BaiHu
I'd argue that there have been plenty of people railroaded by the justice system from every walk of life. BS on YoutTube is SOP, CAN be used to color the innocent guilty and vice versa, but typically has less weight than a courtroom.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRoland
Not arguing one way or the other, just saying that balancing the scales of justice is just as difficult as "reporting the facts".
Given that the prosecution was proven to be crooked, that the chain of command was proven to be doing their best to be influencing the community, and the fact that all of the prosecution’s witnesses fell the fuck apart on the stand; I’m not at all ambiguous about my opinion on this.
Cough...RICHARD JEWELL...Cough...cough.Quote:
Originally Posted by BaiHu
Wow! Blast from the past! (pun intended)Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLebowski
I've seen Gallagher interviewed on a news show, and watched parts of the 5 hour interview as well as all of another. Each and every time I feel like I'm listening to high school girls, not Naval Special Warfare. "They didn't want to do this." "They went to this person and told them I was mean." WTF? Is that really life in a SEAL platoon? If these guys were whining about having to do their job, why were they still on a team?
I agree with this sentiment and suppose that as far as reasons, their ops tempo had been running high for a while. There was a lot of work to be done, SEALs were getting a lot of it on their plate, and that meant guys coming through the pipeline a little quicker, to keep up momentum/fill losses, those same guys were needed in busy units when problems started to crop up, and leadership had "bigger" worries on their mind and figured they could trust everyone involved to man up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hambo
Important lesson in leadership, especially small units: take care of your people, and make sure your people take care of their people. Not a knock on anyone.
You're probably right, but after the first guys packs his paint scraper and heads off to the fleet, everybody else should fall in line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe S
Ya that is what surprised me also. Besides what someone said earlier in the thread, none of the guys I fought alongside ever showed that sentiment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hambo