He has not released a plate for the Acro or 509 yet. One of those would sit so much lower on an aggressively designed plae that lower BUIS would be needed.
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Non Rmr footprint plates are available or in the works, including the 509(not yet ready but showing on the site).
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Got an email from LTT for their Black Friday sale:
"PX4150" for $150 off the PX4 compact carry. You can get the compact carry with their trigger job, night sights, etc. for $800.
For completeness' sake:
BLACK FRIDAY SALE ALL NOVEMBER LONG:
PX4150 - $150 off PX4 Compact pistols
GLK75 - $75 off Glock pistols
HCAT75 - $75 off Hellcat pistols
FREESHIP150 - Free Shipping on parts & accessories over $150 (does not apply to firearms)
Finally shifted me from the 'clicking about' column into the 'owning' column. Here, I've herded the cats (and whether silly or no, with Beretta's feline naming conventions this will be a "stormcat" in my eyes):
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1. Is there a laser/light module that fits and doesnt hang down lower than the trigger guard? The CT railmaster pro is all I have found sof far.
2. is the grip angle the same as the 92? I am looking for a full size HD and compact CCW pair. what goes better with the LTT RDO 92, the px4 or the 92 compact? There are complaints here about the grip. Is it just the slick sides or the angle? I am looking for a grip angle more vertical than the glocks. This would replace my G19.
3. Is the exposed hammer easy to cock? There is a world of great info in the thread but I have not read it all.
I can't answer #1.
2. Grip angle is the same as the 92 as much as I can tell. Some folks feel the grip is too slick. I have three of them and have the Talon covers for them, but haven't put them on. The stock checkering is enough for me.
3. The hammer is pretty easy to cock. On a defensive pistol, that's a bad idea, since it's too easy to make that first shot. The PX4's DA is pretty nice, and lighter hammer springs make it nicer while maintaining reliability.
I've been very pleased with my full size LTT Elite 92 RDO, but am looking for a more G19-sized option DA/SA carry gun. It appears the consensus is in favor of the PX4: for those who have experience with both, which do you think is a better carry option since Ernest has made some upgrades to the 92 compact since this post was started. None of the gun stores in my area have either in stock to compare re: size, ergonomics, etc.
92 Compact RDO Pros:
-parts, holster, magazine, trigger mechanism, grip angle commonality with 92 full size
Cons:
-(from what I've read) size isn't that much smaller.
-weight
-in-stock availability from LTT TBD
PX4 Pros:
-Lighter weight(?)
PX4 cons:
-$1300-1500 for a polymer gun
-different trigger from the 92
-additional holsters, parts equipment to purchase
-not a "legacy" design like the 92, so questioning the availability of factory support/parts down the road (perhaps a non-issue).
I have an LTT RDO 92 Compact with NP3 and Carry Bevel. I also have an LTT PX4 in NP3 with Boresight Solutions grip work. Both have a 2.5 MOA SRO mounted.
The PX4 is much more enjoyable to carry from a weight perspective and also carries a bit smaller. I personally shoot the PX4 better and find the recoil more enjoyable. It tracks very well with a dot.
The trigger on the 92 (12 lb hammer spring) is absolutely unreal. But the PX4 is very good. My only gripe with the PX4 trigger is that it’s polymer and there aren’t any reliable steel alternatives.
But again, the PX4 is noticeably lighter and easier to carry. I’ll post pics tomorrow.
I'm going to not go out on a limb here and say it's a wash. Reliability is solid either way. I happened to be a Cougar user, but if I'd been a vet with 92 experience I'd have glommed onto the 92x series. For civi use I suspect my 3.2" barrel is concealing better but it's winter so I could carry my wak and nobody'd know right now. Conversely, my readings of PX4 Storm Tracker and others suggest that the full PX4 and 92 series are better at/outside 25y. You could be OCD like me and mull this over, or pick something and be happy. I finally did, spurred by LTT's Black Friday sale. The old 19.2 is no worse than it was before, but this is on a completely different level.
If on the edge, go with the heart.
(edit, addressing some other items: I also did not elect to install the Talon grips since I had no issues as-is. My theory on many things is not to F with them if not broken. On hammer, I think the recessed hammer looks cool and I elected against it, because the default hammer is also cool and doesn't interfere. I have tried a type C PX4 and found the arrangement great and the always-near-DA pull non-preferred; I'd go for a "D" over a "C" PX4. I can only see the difference mattering in some pseudo-bravado scenario where cocking the hammer deters the perp. Since IMO that's movie nonsense ignore that and treat the question as a stylistic one.)
I tried a PX4 compact and it wasn’t for me but to address your concern about factory support, while the PX4 had teething issues and was generally a sleeper in the US, Beretta has sold tens of thousands of them to police forces in the rest of the world. The four biggest users, South Africa, Bolivia, Venezuela and Romania account for well over 100k pistols. Factory support should be available for the foreseeable future.