Beretta 21A Bobcat Holsters

My Dad carries a 21A Bobcat 22LR. He uses a pretty crummy IWB holster that looks like some kind of cheap soft felt with a large plastic clip. He wants to start carrying it more, but recently had the holster clip slip off and the entire pistol fall out of his waistband. So he asked me to find out about decent holster options. I mentioned that it's sized better for pocket carry, but he isn't interested in that. While he has sacrificed on the size of the gun, he doesn't want to also sacrifice on the access. He's also kind of set on IWB.

My personal criteria for any holster before I will recommend it:
-Covers entire trigger area.
-Material does not allow trigger to be manipulated even with firm direct pressure while holstered
-Allows grip (or what the little bugger has for one)
-Secure belt mount type

It's likely that he will be frequently donning and doffing, so something like ability to take a DCC clip would be a major plus.

I personally carry in a Keeper, own a JMCK, and recommend JMCK to my brother who carries an M&P in it. So something in a similar vein of quality would be ideal. So far I haven't found anything that looks like what would do well for him. I checked JMCK, Keeper, DSG, Phlster, Tenicor. Didn't find any offerings.
For reference, my carry gun next to his:

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My personal experience with Aholster is limited to their pocket holster, which I currently believe to be the best pocket holster available without exception. They make an IWB holster, which I think is worth serious consideration for the intended use.

https://aholster.com/iwb-aholster/

The belt attachments include:

A belt loop, which unfortunately appears to be a rigid loop. This may or may not work well depending on the design. My experience with other rigid IWB belt loops is that they tend to crack.

A J-hook, which will likely work very well with a pistol as lightweight as a 21A. I do not like them for heavier guns because the pants waistband rather than the belt bears the weight of the gun.

An "aggressive" clip. I have no experience with this belt clip. While many here seem to like certain clips, my experiecne with belt clips in general is that they are almost always either too insecure or too secure. In the latter case, they are more difficult to put on and take off than threading a belt through belt loops, and potentially damaging to clothing and belts.

While I may seem a bit down on the belt attachments offered, my really good experience with the pocket holster leads me to believe this holster is worth a try.

I have a 21A, so if I can get enough interest I can get a mold!!! I'm thinking confirmed 5 holsters should do it!

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Originally Posted by BillSWPA

My personal experience with Aholster is limited to their pocket holster, which I currently believe to be the best pocket holster available without exception. They make an IWB holster, which I think is worth serious consideration for the intended use.

https://aholster.com/iwb-aholster/

The belt attachments include:

A belt loop, which unfortunately appears to be a rigid loop. This may or may not work well depending on the design. My experience with other rigid IWB belt loops is that they tend to crack.

A J-hook, which will likely work very well with a pistol as lightweight as a 21A. I do not like them for heavier guns because the pants waistband rather than the belt bears the weight of the gun.

An "aggressive" clip. I have no experience with this belt clip. While many here seem to like certain clips, my experiecne with belt clips in general is that they are almost always either too insecure or too secure. In the latter case, they are more difficult to put on and take off than threading a belt through belt loops, and potentially damaging to clothing and belts.

While I may seem a bit down on the belt attachments offered, my really good experience with the pocket holster leads me to believe this holster is worth a try.

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That's the closest I've seen to what I'm looking for. I have a pocket holster from them for my J frame.

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Originally Posted by Tony Mayer

I have a 21A, so if I can get enough interest I can get a mold!!! I'm thinking confirmed 5 holsters should do it!

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This right here would be the ideal solution. Any idea on price per holster? I'll check with my Dad but I'm very likely in for 1. I imagine there is an increased timeline making a new mold? His reasons for suddenly carrying more often have merit.

I'll be contrarion and observe that while I used to be a dyed in the wool AHolster fan, 0 out of the last 3 pocket holsters I bought from them have fit without me taking a heat gun and quite a bit of my time to make them usable. The fact that they now have "how to heat gun your holster" videos on their webpage is NOT reassuring to me.

For pocket holsters, I'm now using Alabama holsters. They're exactly what I'm looking for in that application.

For an IWB holster for a teeny tiny pistol like the 21A, I'd go with a FIST #1K ultrathin. Adds nothing to the weight or width of the pistol, and the clip is hellastrong. Website is WONKY and out of date, best bet is to call the proprietor directly to place the order. Jim is getting up there, not sure how much longer he'll be pressing holsters for us.

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Originally Posted by Tony Mayer

I have a 21A, so if I can get enough interest I can get a mold!!! I'm thinking confirmed 5 holsters should do it!

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I just picked up a couple holsters from you, but I could commit to one, and I don't even own one yet (I got a tomcat with the rebate, but I'm planning on getting a 21a before the end of the year on the same deal). A buddy of mine just got a 21a, and I'm sure he would commit to one as he intends to carry it on occasion.

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Originally Posted by Tony Mayer

I have a 21A, so if I can get enough interest I can get a mold!!! I'm thinking confirmed 5 holsters should do it!

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I would commit to one, and I don't even have mine yet! I got a tomcat on the rebate, and am intending on getting a bobcat as well before the end of the year. My buddy did the same with a 21a, and I'm sure he would be interested as he intends to carry it on occasion. Would it accommodate the factory threaded barrel? That's what mine will have.

Langdon announcing their new enhanced Bobcat didn't seem to get a ton of love here but may drive some additional interest in carry options for the model overall.

The kind of buyer for a Bobcat with threaded barrel, trigger job, and cut for an optic seem to me like they would very much be the kind of buyer who would be looking for some solid kydex holster options.

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Originally Posted by psalms144.1

I'll be contrarion and observe that while I used to be a dyed in the wool AHolster fan, 0 out of the last 3 pocket holsters I bought from them have fit without me taking a heat gun and quite a bit of my time to make them usable. The fact that they now have "how to heat gun your holster" videos on their webpage is NOT reassuring to me.

For pocket holsters, I'm now using Alabama holsters. They're exactly what I'm looking for in that application.

For an IWB holster for a teeny tiny pistol like the 21A, I'd go with a FIST #1K ultrathin. Adds nothing to the weight or width of the pistol, and the clip is hellastrong. Website is WONKY and out of date, best bet is to call the proprietor directly to place the order. Jim is getting up there, not sure how much longer he'll be pressing holsters for us.

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I just checked Alabama Holster’s website and their phone holster may cost me some $.

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Originally Posted by psalms144.1

I'll be contrarion and observe that while I used to be a dyed in the wool AHolster fan, 0 out of the last 3 pocket holsters I bought from them have fit without me taking a heat gun and quite a bit of my time to make them usable. The fact that they now have "how to heat gun your holster" videos on their webpage is NOT reassuring to me.

For pocket holsters, I'm now using Alabama holsters. They're exactly what I'm looking for in that application.

For an IWB holster for a teeny tiny pistol like the 21A, I'd go with a FIST #1K ultrathin. Adds nothing to the weight or width of the pistol, and the clip is hellastrong. Website is WONKY and out of date, best bet is to call the proprietor directly to place the order. Jim is getting up there, not sure how much longer he'll be pressing holsters for us.

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Im waiting on a holster for my 43. This is a little discouraging.

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Originally Posted by rd62

Langdon announcing their new enhanced Bobcat didn't seem to get a ton of love here but may drive some additional interest in carry options for the model overall.

The kind of buyer for a Bobcat with threaded barrel, trigger job, and cut for an optic seem to me like they would very much be the kind of buyer who would be looking for some solid kydex holster options.

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Just to clarify this point, the LTT gun is a Tomcat. That’s the .32 ACP one. Their site says there are currently no plans to do the same for the Bobcat .22 LR.

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Originally Posted by rd62

Langdon announcing their new enhanced Bobcat didn't seem to get a ton of love here but may drive some additional interest in carry options for the model overall.

The kind of buyer for a Bobcat with threaded barrel, trigger job, and cut for an optic seem to me like they would very much be the kind of buyer who would be looking for some solid kydex holster options.

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It's important to note we're talking about a holster for the 21A, nicknamed the Bobcat. It's offered in .22LR and I think 25ACP. There is also a "covert" with a threaded barrel that a lot of folks like.

The new Langdon gun is the Beretta 3032 Tomcat. It's chambered in 32ACP, and is a slightly larger gun. I wish LTT the best of luck with the new offering, because Beretta guns are a ton of fun to shoot. I'm certain that some interest from their new Tomcat offering will bleed over to the Bobcat, and that's sweet. I don't know if the offerings they've added to the Tomcat lineup will even be possible with the Bobcat because of the difference in size and weight.

@Tony Mayer I'm confirmed for 1 holster, and possibly 2 depending on the price. My mother also has a Bobcat, but usually carries something different.

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Originally Posted by camsdaddy

Im waiting on a holster for my 43. This is a little discouraging.

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100% of the holsters I have ordered have been fine.

Pocket holsters can be difficult because preferences in the retention level can vary, leading some to be satisfied while others are not. I pocket carry about half the time I carry. I prefer just enough retention to keep the gun in place during normal usage, but nothing anywhere close to the retention required of a holster secured to a belt. Since a pocket holster is not secured to anything, the gun must be able to separate from the holster with very little effort. This level of retention is what an Aholster pocket holster provides.

I continue to wrap Moleskin around the hook by the rear sight to protect my pockets from holes even though this hook is now being made with a more rounded surface. Either this hook or the hook under the grip will catch the lip of the pocket while drawing to keep the holster in the pocket.

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Originally Posted by Cory

It's important to note we're talking about a holster for the 21A, nicknamed the Bobcat. It's offered in .22LR and I think 25ACP. There is also a "covert" with a threaded barrel that a lot of folks like.

The new Langdon gun is the Beretta 3032 Tomcat. It's chambered in 32ACP, and is a slightly larger gun. I wish LTT the best of luck with the new offering, because Beretta guns are a ton of fun to shoot. I'm certain that some interest from their new Tomcat offering will bleed over to the Bobcat, and that's sweet. I don't know if the offerings they've added to the Tomcat lineup will even be possible with the Bobcat because of the difference in size and weight.

@Tony Mayer I'm confirmed for 1 holster, and possibly 2 depending on the price. My mother also has a Bobcat, but usually carries something different.

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Cory, I will get with my mold guy and see what I can do! And yes, this would be for the .22/.25, not the .32

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Originally Posted by WobblyPossum

Just to clarify this point, the LTT gun is a Tomcat. That’s the .32 ACP one. Their site says there are currently no plans to do the same for the Bobcat .22 LR.

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My mistake

In. Take my money, please.

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Originally Posted by Tony Mayer

Cory, I will get with my mold guy and see what I can do! And yes, this would be for the .22/.25, not the .32

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In so hard. At least one, possibly 2 if we get Enigma compatibility.

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Originally Posted by psalms144.1

I'll be contrarion and observe that while I used to be a dyed in the wool AHolster fan, 0 out of the last 3 pocket holsters I bought from them have fit without me taking a heat gun and quite a bit of my time to make them usable. The fact that they now have "how to heat gun your holster" videos on their webpage is NOT reassuring to me.

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I'm with you. For pocket holsters I like Vedder now.

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Originally Posted by kobuksonhwacha

In so hard. At least one, possibly 2 if we get Enigma compatibility.

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They will have to be longer to be enigma compatible, but definitely doable.

RE the JMCK holster.

Will they be compatible with the threaded barrel version (22LR)?

+2 if enigma compatible

I'm selfishly making a Tomcat holster at some point.

My Dad just asked me about this thread and if anyone was making a decent holster yet, lol.

And now I'm looking at 21A variants that look awesome. It might be the last year of production, but Beretta's website seems to have more models than ever.

Beretta 21 molds are ordered! Best case scenario I have molds in hand in 2 weeks to make holsters. More realistic would be 3-4 weeks. Price wise will be same as listed prices for the current designs we have now. If I come up with something new (a couple small gun ideas are percolating up there) then will have to figure out a price.

Yes, will have and enigma compatible holster for sure!

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Originally Posted by vaspence

RE the JMCK holster.

Will they be compatible with the threaded barrel version (22LR)?

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Yes, my mold is going to be G19 length, so it will cover any threaded barrel.

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Originally Posted by Tony Mayer

Beretta 21 molds are ordered! Best case scenario I have molds in hand in 2 weeks to make holsters. More realistic would be 3-4 weeks. Price wise will be same as listed prices for the current designs we have now. If I come up with something new (a couple small gun ideas are percolating up there) then will have to figure out a price.

Yes, will have and enigma compatible holster for sure!

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Giggity.

@nate89
@randyho
@kobuksonhwacha
@jrbway

Tagging a few people who said they would be interesting in buying.

Tony emailed me, the pistol molds are complete. So if folks want to start touching base and placing orders we can. I'm sure Tony will be along to say more.

Looks like this is becoming a reality guys. He stepped up to offer something nobody else really was, and I'm excited for it. I know my Dad's been looking for something decent for his mouse gun for awhile.

FIST #1K - it'll add virtually no bulk to the pistol, and has a hella-strong metal belt clip. He can get it for about $40 delivered.

Fair warning - the FIST website is BEYOND prehistoric, best bet is to have Dad call them directly.

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Originally Posted by psalms144.1

FIST #1K - it'll add virtually no bulk to the pistol, and has a hella-strong metal belt clip. He can get it for about $40 delivered.

Fair warning - the FIST website is BEYOND prehistoric, best bet is to have Dad call them directly.

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Nah man. If JMCK specifically tooled up for this holster primarily based on this thread, I'm not buying from anyone else.

Guys n Gals, I made the master mold long so I can make lengths to match Glock 19 length or shorter. A wing claw design is way overkill, but an enigma shell, IWB3, George style will probably work well for it. Will try and get some pics of Cory's holster when I get it made tomorrow or Saturday.

IN!

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Originally Posted by Cory

@nate89
@randyho
@kobuksonhwacha
@jrbway

Tagging a few people who said they would be interesting in buying.

Tony emailed me, the pistol molds are complete. So if folks want to start touching base and placing orders we can. I'm sure Tony will be along to say more.

Looks like this is becoming a reality guys. He stepped up to offer something nobody else really was, and I'm excited for it. I know my Dad's been looking for something decent for his mouse gun for awhile.

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Excellent news, I'm really happy to see this come to fruition, and I really appreciate the willingness to go out on a limb as far as tooling up costs for a pretty niche item. I'll be good for one as soon as they are available, and I have 1-2 buddies who aren't on here but will likely get one as well.

Holster arrived today, and Dad came over with his 21A to pick it up.

IWB #3
Beretta 21 Long
10* Cant
Right Carry
Black
DCC Monoblock
Mid Guard
Normal hole pattern


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The holster is obviously JMCK quality. Zero complaints. This moves Dad's pee shooter from an uncle mike's peice of glorified felt with plastic tab to an actual holster. There is definitely space for a threaded barrel, and the length should prevent roll out. I specified DCC because they're flat, hold well, and remove easily. This is a win for these little Beretta 22s.

At this point, I've convinced every male gun carrier in my family to get a JMCK.