Saw mention of this on another forum. Has anyone here heard this?
If the Python comes back, can the Anaconda be far behind?
Okie John
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Saw mention of this on another forum. Has anyone here heard this?
If the Python comes back, can the Anaconda be far behind?
Okie John
If they do:
1) They won't be like the old ones that are "fitted and tuned". It'll be CNC and MIM and "mass" assembly like most everything is these days.
2) It will also show S&W and Ruger that they intend to stick around awhile because I can see an instant year+ long backlog, which will be agoodGREAT thing! At least Ruger is introducing some new stuff, maybe it'll motivate S&W to get off their duff and innovate a bit. They can start with ditching the goofy lock.
Given some of the disturbing QC issues I've seen on the Colt Cobra line lately - a Python would be premature. There are clearly some machining and fit-finish issues that Colt needs to clear up.
Smith won't be getting rid of lawyer locks - ever. They'll always have them available in at least some of the line. Perhaps they will make more lock-free guns, but they'll always have locks. This is a company HQ'ed in Mass., where internal locks are mandated by law for guns sold there. Is Smith really going to make all of their product line unavailable to their own home state? I doubt it.
I've pretty much lost interest in Smith and Wessons at this point. I'd like to see Ruger do 3" versions of the Super GP in both .357 and 9mm and follow that up with a Super GP45. If they want to get radical, maybe a Super GP22...think they can cram 14 or 16 .22 LRs in that cylinder? :eek:
I never objected to the lines of the Python's frame or barrel, but that grip shape just didn't fit my hand for DA shooting. It didn't work in the D-frame or the massive New Service either. And, I always found it kind of curious that I was told to avoid stacking triggers by old, experienced revolver shooters, but the much touted Python trigger stacked worse than a 1st Generation Glock. And the stack was common throughout the Colt line back in the 1970s when I owned a few (Python and a Det. Spl.) and shot many more.
As to Colt bringing the model back, I would expect them to do an entirely different gun and just hanging the Python name on it to promote sales. Something like a fancied up, 6" version of their King Cobra.
Dave
Some of us paid good money to have the Python rebuilt to eliminate the stacking action.
We also wonder what the hoi polloi are raving about on the stock triggers.
I saw an alleged leaked picture of the New Python. I, too, had expected a tarted up New Cobra, but if the picture is straight, it is a whole new gun.
My question: is this going to be a $800-1200 gun intended to compete with the 686 and GP-100, or is it a $1500-2000 gun intended to compete with.....I don't know, the even more expensive Korths and some of the more exotic Ruger and Smith offerings?
I think they would make more $$$ going option one, but it seems like the new King Cobra is intended for that niche.
Only shot a Python once, and I was too young to have any context to properly judge it.
My LNGS had a pair of lovely 2.5" Pythons which were beautiful, but not worth the $7000 tag for either IMO by a country mile. At that price, I could buy a Korth AND a mr73. Or a few Registered Magnums, or a few Triple Locks.....
I mean this with much love and respect, brother:
https://media.tenor.com/images/3d2c2...490e/tenor.gif
;)
The "lawyer lock" isn't going away. Maybe if S&W went out of business and sold its assets to another company ("The New Smith & Wesson Co."), kind of like Piper Aircraft did, then the lock might be discarded.
Of course, that'd also mean that NS&W Co. wouldn't be doing warranty service on any of the current guns out there, but you pays your money and you makes your choice.
You appear to be saying that as if there were quality warranty service to be had now. :)
Every S&W revolver with the lock is an abomination, and needs to be cast back into the forging fires of Mordor, no matter how much the hobbitses like their crush fit precious. JMO.
I shoot DA revolvers DA, so if the DA pull isn't good, why bother?
The finish is nice, but the physical lines don't do it for me.
I LOLed. Thing 1 asked me what was so funny. :D
Get in line. :D
Sorry folks, I can't get over the barrel rib and grip shape. The blued finish is fantastic and I'm sure it's accurate, but I don't like the shape. If gifted one, I'd probably sell it and buy the nicest N-frame I could find and a case or two of ammo.
Chris
Supposedly there are a couple thousand made and ready to ship. Don't know what it looks like, but supposed to have King Cobra like modern lockwork. SHOT should be the place to see.
The new python is supposed to be released 1-2-2020.
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Photos are starting to leak over on the Colt forum.
I'd bet a six pack that the new Python (if it does come to fruition) does NOT have a friggin hole in the side for some silly little key. Hell at least Ruger made them not be an issue or visible, you actually have to drill a hole in the grips to access it if it's even there. S&W is terminally pussy whipped if they ain't got the balls to make things right.
It may be irrational AF, but I want one.
(I'd really like a Smython, though.)
Give it time.
Modern manufacture cost cutting notwithstanding, the SF6 I looked at and reportedly the better New Cobras don't NEED gunsmith "tuning" like old timey V spring Chamelot Delvigne guns.
I’d have to see an MSRP and have a sample in hand to inspect before committing, but I’m kinda interested
Maybe I'll actually end up with a 3" Colt Python before I die now...
But seriously 4" Royal Blue or fucking bust...that's Python 101.
My 4" is a Jungkind duty tune, all he was doing in semi-retirement at the time.
My 6" Colt Custom Tedford action is lighter but utterly dependent on well seated Federal primers. That is all I use in any revolver ammo, so no problem.
Jungkind was a Texas LE legend in many ways. He was Bill Jordan huge and serious. I often wonder what happened to the many TXDPS Pythons he tuned. You could carry one if you had 10 years on (usually in THP) or were a Sergeant. Looked nicer in the holster than the issue Model 28. Sometimes you wish you could see the future a bit and get something you don't know you want yet!
Can you please explain, in legalese, why they won't be rid of it?
Since they offer the lock in basically none of their semi autos, and they offer some revolvers without locks, what possible reason could there be against eliminating them completely? Or at least leave it as an "option" that we know pretty much no one is going to order?
I'm curious too. I can only think of one reason since they've made the 442 sans lock and my 642 doesn't have one either. Ruger has a fully functional lock in some revolver models, but good luck using it. It's hidden under the grip and designed as such that it'll likely never cause a problem locking up when it shouldn't. To use it you have to remove the grips. It's like they said "OK here's your lock, now fuck off". The new Colt Cobras don't have one at all. So I'm really curious as to how S&W is locked (pun?) into the lock for perpetuity if it's not just a case of snowflake management and legal council.
I don't know if there's a confidential settlement requiring them. I don't know if S&W wants the publicity of the Bloombergians/Bradyites yammering about "Smith & Wesson deleted a safety lock, think of the children, jibber jabber".
But jeebus, haven't we beaten this particular dead horse enough?
Saw this one on the 1911 board.
The OP has since taken down the link, perhaps because people questioned the logic of such an expensive project. It seems that most gunboards tolerate nothing but unalloyed admiration for whatever comes along.
I saved his site; he does nice work and one expensive revolver is the least of it.
https://vicknairgunsmithing.blogspot...Pistolsmithing
I don't know where to find more about the New Python, all I know is drawn from examining pictures like Post #19.
Hang on another month, I am sure it will show up at SHOT and maybe even get fired at Range Day.
Will put it on the list when a 4” stainless comes out. I hope these are a home run. Glad they priced them within reason.