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First thought that came to my head was the brilliant scifi Milkweed series. Not on topic, sorry.
The Soldier Systems piece is intriguing. Lots of good pictures. Alas, appendix carry is not for me. Seems somewhat reminiscent of the Incog.
http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-c...-Eidolon-5.jpg
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Haven't felt a need to buy another Raven product. This isn't doing anything to change my mind.
Sure, it's great for the two or three of us who have Glocks, but what about the rest of the forum?
I've got a bunch of Raven kydex, its OK. Not what I use everyday. Not feeling it for this new design.
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I ordered one - I'm a sucker for good marketing I guess.
It helped that it looked really well engineered.
Incog wannabe, IMO.
No disrespect to their developers, but if I was serious about developing a fast appendix holster, Mr_White would be my go to tester.
What?! No bolt on Bloodshark sheath to go with it!?
I like Kyle Defoor. He mentioned somewhere that he was working on a project with Raven but I didn't expect it to be appendix. I've never seen him do anything but behind the hip. The design definitely has a lot of flexibility.
looks interesting, but I need more of a wedge then that it looks like those pad provide (I'm 5' 9" and 160 with a runners build.).. The price is also a put off for me but I do like kyle defoor and look forward to hearing peoples opinion.
The more I look at it and read the Soldier Systems link, the more intrigued I become. I also first thought "injected molded, INCOG repro" but I see some things about it that I really like. My Shaggy is four years young now and I've wanted to try something different just because so I ordered an Eidolon to try out. I may hate it but you never know until you try I guess.
The "wedge" bolt on piece has been done before. Cane & Derby had/has it on their AIWB offering. Which incidentally was my first holster when I was converted to carry appendix by VCDGrips back in 2011.
My experience with that holster was that after a few hours of carry, that very wedge would cause a not insignificant amount of discomfort. After about 6 months of trying to 'adapt and overcome', I moved on to the Shaggy. Haven't looked back since.
I will be interested to see if Raven's wedge set up will have better results. I won't be jumping the Shaggy ship for this, for now.
I would honestly say buy one. You'll get it next week and if it sucks for you sell it, you'll break even when they're sold out. It has a few elements of what I would make if I had access to their equipment. There are obviously things I would do differently but given how other larger makers have dropped some turds I'd say they did a solid job.
so far i have been using this holster for months now
I find it comfortable
fast presentation times
great master grip on the gun
doesn't cant out even on my fat ass
gun grip is drawn in pretty tight if need be by the claw feature
its not an incog for sure its better in my book for me at least
Not a huge fan of the whole "erector set" principle... But, if it was for the 92G Brig Tac that i just got, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Alas, my Glock already had plenty of holsters.
I'm also not a fan of the multiple-use, multiple-option holsters in general. But with time the guys who do like to tinker will probably come to some conclusions about what you do and don't want for aiwb given different guns, different body builds, etc. If/when they come out for the 1911 I'll likely grab one to try out.
I picked one up. I don't care how it looks or whatever it may seem. If it is a good design, it's a good design and will prove so by trying it out.
I have been thinking about a holster design that would be like a kydex/plastic version similar to the SME to reduce the bulge that the wedge create, seems like this holster is going that direction. Another holster to try out....
I would buy one just for the integrated beard comb.
All kidding aside, if I had a Glock I would've ordered one as soon as they were available.
It appears to be too wide left to right IMO.
Since I first heard about this I've been kind of skeptical of the whole wing thing. Looks like it would dig into your hip without actually helping anything. Unless it makes the gun smaller, or bends the grip (literally) to fill the ab-hip trench, it probably wouldn't work for me. A G17 from AIWB is even with my hip...
But I'll try one if someone I know gets one and is willing to let me try it.
This does look interesting. I too appreciate Defoor. I will be interested in what Jay has to say about it.
I actually came away with the opposite impression. Looks like it could be the star of a sequel to The Pentagon Wars.
I don't get modularity in these products. I think it only benefits the manufacturer, who then only has to make one holster body and a bunch of attachments, to no benefit to the purchaser.
I know since the pic of him and Michael at his house he's mentioned AIWB often to include a bike trip he made while carrying aiwb.
Prior to that he was back and forth too.
Modular holsters appeal to me because no matter how many times I've figured out, "This is what I want from now on," I eventually find something else that is just a little bit better in some way.
The modularity therefore appeals to me as a means of experimenting. I can't count how many holsters I own where I think, "Maybe this would be better if [tiny change]. Maybe. But I'm not sure enough that I want to spend the time and money to have a custom variation created with that tiny change."
Playing around with different configurations may therefore expose me to something new. Of course, it's arguable as to whether the individual configurations of this holster are unique enough to teach me anything, but I honestly feel like I've learned something from every holster I've ever used: no matter how good, bad, or multi-functional they were.
I'm very intrigued by the claw. I like the grip-tucking function of modern AIWB holsters, but can't deal with the extra bulge that most of them create. I'll be curious to see how the claw performs.
I think the pistol class we did with him was fall of 2012 and I could swear he was using it then. I've seen it on his FB feed over the last couple years but I remember that I never paid it much attention or gave it much credence until I saw him doing it. We did almost the entire class concealed and that's an area he excels as an instructor.
Pretty much everyone is referring to this as an AIWB holster, but RCS is not referring to it as one. It's clearly configurable for optimized AIWB, among other configurations.