https://geissele.com/warner-swaseyr-...moa3-gen2.html
It popped up in a Geissele email today - Warner & Swasey RDS Micro. Given the price I’m guessing it’s a Swampfox grade dot.
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https://geissele.com/warner-swaseyr-...moa3-gen2.html
It popped up in a Geissele email today - Warner & Swasey RDS Micro. Given the price I’m guessing it’s a Swampfox grade dot.
Same rebranded/restyled optic sold by several other companies....
https://atibal-optics.com/products/s...s-battery-life
I'm fairly confident you get what you pay for. I'm baffled by Geissele's marketing strategy. Are they a Tier 1 manufacturer that provides weapons for special ops military units? Or more like Palmetto or Botach where you can buy hobby grade AR parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyDuty
That’s what led to my confusion, too - I always thought Geissele ≠ PSA.
I'll never understand why consumers reward that sort of behavior from manufacturers/retailers.
I agree it is kind of confusing, maybe indicative of how tight/competitive things are getting in the accessory market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clusterfrack
The only Geissele stuff I religiously use are/were their carbon steel Super Gas Blocks which they offered on the ALG website. I also have used numerous ALG rails on builds over the years. They no longer offer the carbon steel version, only the black stainless steel version at double the price. Don't know why they quit offering the carbon steel version.
While it is true that you get what you pay for, I think that very often we tend to pay for more than we actually use. As the guy from Gideon Optics said on a video - by all means if you are locking out of submarines and making beach insertions, going from minus -40 degrees to +80 degrees on a HALO, buy an aimpoint or an eotech, if you aren't doing that, consider ours.
Additionally, that sight built into the top of the housing is worthless and hokey looking.
Outside of armed conflict with first tier militaries or police departments, I'm pretty sure most folks get dirt-napped by what we would call hobby grade stuff than by Tier 1 gear:
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I would imagine that is many cases folks trust the manufacturer and think they are getting a super deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sig_Fiend
IIRC, Geissele offered this optic on the 'El Jefe' patrol rifle offered through ALG. I would imagine this is excess stock.
I notice that the 'El Jefe' (cheesy, terrible name IMO) has been out of stock. Does that mean they are going faster than they can build them, or that the rifle was a bust?
Geissele has a reputation as a quality company, too much of this kind of product offering will tarnish that image.
They should take a page from BCM's playbook and have someone mount them on receivers and them advertise them as demo/blem items at the price listed in the OP's link. That will move them.
(Note - not disparaging the quality of BCM uppers, pretty much all I use are their blem uppers. IMO the blem deal is a good way to reduce inventory without impacting the MSRP of their stripped uppers.)
The rifle was a bust.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDTSGM
They just introduced a brace pistol version called the El Corto.
I'm on their email list (not that they ship to IL now) and that's what I was thinking. I thought Geissele was top tier and if you can't afford it, well it sucks to be you and poor. Then I see these. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clusterfrack
Who the heck are they marketing to?Quote:
Originally Posted by HCM
I see Bob had time to upgrade. That used to read "Mosin"Quote:
Originally Posted by DDTSGM
Remember the Cadillac Cimarron?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth_Uno
Bill G is one of those “mayonnaise is spicy” type of people. The pseudo Spanish names are apparently a poorly thought out attempt at leveraging the fact they recently replaced BCM as the rifle /upper supplier for CBP/Border Patrol.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDTSGM
The El jefe and the El Corto are both clearly overpriced for what they are, A buyer looking for a quality rifle at or above the thousand dollar mark can do much better elsewhere.
And of course a $500 rifle with a cheap Chinese optic and a five dollar sling priced at > $1k is double what most budget buyers want to pay.
Wow. I always thought the names were cheesy but never made the connection. Poorly thought out is an understatement.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCM
I hope we are not going to see an ALG El Mataperros integrally suppressed AR pistol announcement ..
Thanks. You've kinda become my source for insider info.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCM
El Chingon?Quote:
Originally Posted by MTP
How about an ALG 5.7 PDW - the “Mata Policia?”Quote:
Originally Posted by MTP
Sadly, a lot of these factors being discussed give me the same feel of where LaRue ended up heading (nowhere). As with them, still some high quality parts that are good but, overall seems lacking in direction and focus.
Maybe El Chingadera. We had many of those when I was a kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by MTP
It's the Escalade now. Or a one fiddy Platinum if you you need a PU to haul a load to the dump. Or take a dump at a 5 star restaurant.Quote:
Originally Posted by OfficeCat
*La ChingaderaQuote:
Originally Posted by Borderland
Somebody on the naming committee over there has a sense of humor.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyDuty
http://www.warpc.org/articles/spring...1908-and-1913/
Okie John
Te chingaste if this is your optic of choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCM